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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11339

    #46
    Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
    White has really shone so far this season, and though it's still very early I'm allowing myself to get carried away because I believe he's just that good!

    Who woulda thought? A young, confident, big bodied KPP and he plays for the Swans. Something ain't right!
    Is he another Teaser?
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • satchmopugdog
      Bandicoots ears
      • Apr 2004
      • 3691

      #47
      Originally posted by Nico
      Is he another Teaser?

      OMG....I can only cope with one velvet suit in a lifetime please!!!It is fun watching Mike Myers but he is joking. Please Jesse step away from the velvet now.
      "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #48
        The lad is just fine. Even that gigantic glittery ear-stud he wears hasn't put me off. I think he has confidence to burn, just willing him to burn it up on the track and not elsewhere. I admit to still be holding my breath, but am breathing easier than I was last year. I have been watching him since first ressie game - man body amongst the boys - so have a prioprietary interest. (I now have a smug smile and a lot of Toldyas in my backpack with the occasional stand up and stir the pot moves, which trust me is a sight to behold).
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • stellation
          scott names the planets
          • Sep 2003
          • 9720

          #49


          Stumbled across this link, nifty little clip of Jesse dunking a ball in a relatively amusing way a couple of years ago; gives an idea of just how athletic Jesse is (and that he's always been a showman!). For anyone wondering- yes, that would be fairly hard to do.
          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            #50
            Needa a lot more game time. A wasted asset as far as I am concerned.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • giant
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2005
              • 4731

              #51
              Originally posted by stellation
              http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoid=4684829

              Stumbled across this link, nifty little clip of Jesse dunking a ball in a relatively amusing way a couple of years ago; gives an idea of just how athletic Jesse is (and that he's always been a showman!). For anyone wondering- yes, that would be fairly hard to do.
              Very cool - good spot!

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              • reigning premier
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2006
                • 4335

                #52
                Originally posted by Nico
                Needa a lot more game time. A wasted asset as far as I am concerned.
                Yep. Not quite coming on like he needs to. Will be under a lot of pressure by the end of teh year if he doesn't improve.

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                • jono2707
                  Goes up to 11
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3326

                  #53
                  Originally posted by reigning premier
                  Yep. Not quite coming on like he needs to. Will be under a lot of pressure by the end of teh year if he doesn't improve.
                  I disagree - he is showing some great signs and you can't expect a player like Jesse to be an immediate star. Is doing very nicely and the only way we would lose him is if he returns to the Gold Coast - hope not!

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9720

                    #54
                    I assumed it was sarcastic!
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • Primmy
                      Proud Tragic Swan
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5970

                      #55
                      Originally posted by reigning premier
                      Yep. Not quite coming on like he needs to. Will be under a lot of pressure by the end of teh year if he doesn't improve.
                      Yeah, that has to be sarcastic remark! He may look like a bloke, but he is in fact a kid! And a kid in training as a ruckman at that. I don't see Jolls being as good as he is now at the age of 21! Safe as houses IMO. Not on the list.
                      If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                      • dimelb
                        pr. dim-melb; m not f
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 6889

                        #56
                        Next season I'd like to see him in the forward line and Pyke as backup ruckman, Currie doing cameos to start with in ruck and forward.
                        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9720

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Primmy
                          Yeah, that has to be sarcastic remark! He may look like a bloke, but he is in fact a kid! And a kid in training as a ruckman at that. I don't see Jolls being as good as he is now at the age of 21! Safe as houses IMO. Not on the list.
                          Just going on stats it's actually pretty interesting,
                          Jesse: 12.8 hitouts, 6.1 disposals, 0.6 goals (this season)
                          Darren: 5.6 hitouts, 4.8 disposals, 0.4 goals (2nd season since debut)
                          Darren:13.7 hitouts, 7.3 disposals, 0.2 goals (3rd season @ Jesse's age now)

                          So Jesse is well in front on stats alone on Darren's second season (they appear to have had a fairly similar run of a handful of games in their debut season then a heap the following season) and is just about around the same mark as Darren's season when he was 21. A quick scan suggests that in Darren's 3rd season where his numbers went up quite a bit Jeff White missed half a dozen games and it looks like Darren took first ruck, I can't be bothered looking into whether that caused a big spike in his stats for those games or not.
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16773

                            #58
                            Problem with comparing stats on that basis for a ruckman is that it ignores TOG. I know Nico, in particular, has been arguing how underused White has been in terms of minutes of each game he's actually got to play, but Jolly hardly got a run at all when Jeff White was the main man down at Demonland.

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9720

                              #59
                              Certainly liz, but in this case I'm kind of assuming that Darren's minimal game time probably averaged out to around the same mark as Jesse's current minimal game time during that period; and I'm looking at it more as comparing two backup ruckmen and not trying to suggest at all that Darren was the top flight ruckman (apart possibly from in the 6 games that Jeff missed).

                              My understanding (based on a work colleague who was a keen Demons fan, big Jolly lover and furious at the time of the trade) was that the frustration with opportunities/limited game time was primarily in the final season that Darren was at Melbourne, with the logic being that he earnt better playing time during his 3rd season and the coaching staff failed to capitalize on it. He only played 7 games in his last season with Melbourne averaging 3.4 disposals and 6.3 hitouts in presumably little game time.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • ugg
                                Can you feel it?
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15970

                                #60
                                I would also take into account:
                                - The Swans contest more ball ups than any other club.
                                - White's hitouts were inflated when we played Hawthorn the first time around, when they were using Mitch Thorp as their 2nd ruck.
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