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  • smasher
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2005
    • 627

    On The Couch

    Who watched "On the Couch" last night?
    It was interesting to hear Healey and Hird say that when a player wants out of a club they do it cause they aren't happy and need a change.They were talking of ROK,who,to them,looks disinterested.It was also said that the relationship between the player and the coach usually became strained after the failure to trade.
    Also at the start of the show they spoke about the value of the kick and as an example showed a perfect long kick from Moore to Hall which gave us our first goal against Brisbane as an example

    (I watched three footy shows last night,I don't think I've confused them!
  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    #2
    Originally posted by smasher
    Who watched "On the Couch" last night?
    It was interesting to hear Healey and Hird say that when a player wants out of a club they do it cause they aren't happy and need a change.They were talking of ROK,who,to them,looks disinterested.It was also said that the relationship between the player and the coach usually became strained after the failure to trade.
    Also at the start of the show they spoke about the value of the kick and as an example showed a perfect long kick from Moore to Hall which gave us our first goal against Brisbane as an example

    (I watched three footy shows last night,I don't think I've confused them!
    Exactly what many of us have been saying.
    Does God believe in Atheists?

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    • stellation
      scott names the planets
      • Sep 2003
      • 9720

      #3
      I think there probably are some issues there with ROK, but I do also think he has been having a red hot go out there in each game so far this season as well.
      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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      • reigning premier
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2006
        • 4335

        #4
        Thought his game against Brisbane was his best this year thus far. Though, that's not saying much as he's been god awful in the other two. I don't think that they'll be dropping him to the reserves just yet but that will seriously need to start looking at him and his work ethic. The game against Carlton might be just what he needs to revitalise himself and prove his loyalty!

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          #5
          Originally posted by stellation
          I think there probably are some issues there with ROK, but I do also think he has been having a red hot go out there in each game so far this season as well.
          More lukewarm.
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • desredandwhite
            Click!
            • Jan 2003
            • 2498

            #6
            Originally posted by stellation
            I think there probably are some issues there with ROK, but I do also think he has been having a red hot go out there in each game so far this season as well.
            That's not what I saw at the Gabba on the weekend.

            He is a senior player, I expect quite a lot from him. His trademark hard work and pace were nowhere to be seen. Could most often be found wandering 20 metres off his man when we didn't have the ball, and not really bothering to lead and create options when we did have the ball.

            He certainly wasn't on his own, but as mentioned, I expect more from a senior premiership player.

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2356

              #7
              Its funny how people hear things to suit their own agenda. What Hird said was that it CAN create problems and it CAN cause a problem with the coach. The word was "CAN" not "DOES". They were exploring reasons for why ROK was not starring and there was no suggestion that he was not trying or that he was sulking. Get off ROK's back. He could have walked and he decided to stay for the rest of his career. Argument over.
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • DeadlyAkkuret
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2006
                • 4547

                #8
                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                He could have walked and he decided to stay for the rest of his career. Argument over.
                Because Carlton couldn't afford him.

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                • Go Swannies
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5697

                  #9
                  I've admired O'Keeefe throughout his career - even when he decided to become a woeful kick on goal. But I sent a text to a friend towards the end of the Lions game saying "sack O'Keefe".

                  I can't see he's adding anything to the team right now except giving us 18 "players" on the ground. Maybe he has a secret injury. Or maybe he's bored. But his ticker and overhead marks are what he adds to the team and right now he's giving us neither.

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                  • 10Totti10
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 443

                    #10
                    O'Keefe is fine. Just going through a rough patch. Just have to wait a couple of weeks. He has a heap of friends down here in Sydney, and never complained before. Hopefully this week he can have a cracker of a game.

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Big Cat
                      Its funny how people hear things to suit their own agenda. What Hird said was that it CAN create problems and it CAN cause a problem with the coach. The word was "CAN" not "DOES". They were exploring reasons for why ROK was not starring and there was no suggestion that he was not trying or that he was sulking. Get off ROK's back. He could have walked and he decided to stay for the rest of his career. Argument over.
                      Not quite.

                      There's a difference between "could have walked" and "stayed on because he didn't get a better offer", and at the moment, it's showing in the way he's playing.
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #12
                        Maybe he'll perfrom better this week.

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                        • Jeffers1984
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4564

                          #13
                          I have faith in Moneybags.
                          Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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                          • Frosty13
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 56

                            #14
                            Originally posted by smasher
                            Who watched "On the Couch" last night?
                            It was interesting to hear Healey and Hird say that when a player wants out of a club they do it cause they aren't happy and need a change.They were talking of ROK,who,to them,looks disinterested.It was also said that the relationship between the player and the coach usually became strained after the failure to trade.
                            Also at the start of the show they spoke about the value of the kick and as an example showed a perfect long kick from Moore to Hall which gave us our first goal against Brisbane as an example

                            (I watched three footy shows last night,I don't think I've confused them!
                            Can't say that I agree with you here champ. What about the relationship between Andy Lovett and Matty Knights or Hamish McIntosh and Dean Laidley? I bet those guys are getting on pretty well at the minute. Lets all be honest here and admit that we missed out on a golden opportunity to offload a bloke that is more than likely finished.
                            On a seperate note, I just wanted to add that Jimmy Hird is very impressive with his his work for Fox Sports. The man just oozes sex appeal.

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9720

                              #15
                              Originally posted by desredandwhite
                              That's not what I saw at the Gabba on the weekend.

                              He is a senior player, I expect quite a lot from him. His trademark hard work and pace were nowhere to be seen. Could most often be found wandering 20 metres off his man when we didn't have the ball, and not really bothering to lead and create options when we did have the ball.

                              He certainly wasn't on his own, but as mentioned, I expect more from a senior premiership player.
                              I'll add the caveat that my view is based on just the Hawks game + watching on tele, I find it hard to judge ROK based on television coverage as he normally is such a hard worker when the ball isn't around.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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