Teams v Carlton

[satchmopugdog]

I like Sergio...his barrel chest just does something for me

[573v30]

Great to see Thornton make his debut.

[dimelb]

I like Sergio...his barrel chest just does something for me

I think his surname might be pronounced in the Spanish way: "Viyagra".

[SimonH]

Also, does anybody else think it's odd that Ablett is an emergency? Surely if he was injured, he wouldn't be named at all? And if he isn't injured, then he must simply be dropped, and based on past comments by Roos (such as "our midfield just doesn't work without him"), that seems unlikely.

Yes, I do. His inclusion in the leadership group (which is synonymous with an 'automatic inclusion if fit' group, up to this point) only accentuates the oddness.

While it's probably of mere theoretical interest, good to see Grundy named at CHF and Ted at CHB, where for the last couple of weeks it's been the other way around.

[annew]

That is 13 players named that were not in the Premiership team and they say we haven't changed our team much!

[goswannie14]

That is 13 players named that were not in the Premiership team and they say we haven't changed our team much!

We haven't, given this is the forth season since the premiership, it is a verrrrrry slow change of personnel.

[satchmopugdog]

I think his surname might be pronounced in the Spanish way: "Viyagra".

Like your work.

[annew]

We haven't, given this is the forth season since the premiership, it is a verrrrrry slow change of personnel.

Maybe so but it is only 2 full years since we lost a GF by 1 point.

[Kanga]

If Hall doesn't play who will be the major goal kickers for you guys?

Carlton have Fev to take care of their goal efforts......

Will be a cracker match at the SCG - no one (even me) could accuse the Swans of not having a go at their home ground.

[Gary]

Barlow?

Sometimes I can admit mistakes e.g. Ted Richards has now done enough to be at least rated a reasonable pick up...& Bevan has recovered his career...but after early promise...is it not obvious to everyone...including the selection panel...that Barlow just hasn't got it?
The guy makes trouble out anything...no peripheral vision...no football brain...he only looks half decent if he is a long way from anyone & can run...even then he is still likely to run into trouble or dispose of the ball poorly.
I thought Goodes decision making early (i.e. until I turned off) was woeful for a player of his stature. That certainly doesn't help a Barlow to start thinking.
All that silly hand passing in a crowd while the rain poured down...do they get any instructions?
On selection I still say that any team that can carry both LRT & Grundy on a regular basis has a serious problem.
Buchanan has been on the slide for a couple of years...sad to watch...is he carrying some sort of injury?

[Mr Magoo]

Maybe so but it is only 2 full years since we lost a GF by 1 point.

Thought it was interesting that Brian taylor said that Richmonds decision to cut a lot of its premiership group in one go just a year or so after winning it in the early 80s was the start of Richmonds culture problems which he believed has permeated through even to this day.

He believed that the result of doing this was a selfish culture in which everyone looked out for themselves and the large cut of premiership players left no one to carry on the good culture that had developed during the premiership years. Interesting comment from a person who was on the inside at the time

[Midfield]

Sometimes I can admit mistakes e.g. Ted Richards has now done enough to be at least rated a reasonable pick up...& Bevan has recovered his career...but after early promise...is it not obvious to everyone...including the selection panel...that Barlow just hasn't got it?
The guy makes trouble out anything...no peripheral vision...no football brain...he only looks half decent if he is a long way from anyone & can run...even then he is still likely to run into trouble or dispose of the ball poorly.
I thought Goodes decision making early (i.e. until I turned off) was woeful for a player of his stature. That certainly doesn't help a Barlow to start thinking.
All that silly hand passing in a crowd while the rain poured down...do they get any instructions?
On selection I still say that any team that can carry both LRT & Grundy on a regular basis has a serious problem.
Buchanan has been on the slide for a couple of years...sad to watch...is he carrying some sort of injury?

Amon did his calf in the ressies a couple of weeks back but should have never been dropped. Without a doubt the most underrated player in the team. We are a poorer team without him.

[Mike_B]

Amon did his calf in the ressies a couple of weeks back but should have never been dropped. Without a doubt the most underrated player in the team. We are a poorer team without him.

Yes, I agree that we are a poorer team without him at his best. The way he played in 2005 he was crucial to our performance. I don't know what it is - attitude, injuries or just a change in the way the game is played now compared to 2005, but the 2007-8 version of Amon was a far cry from that and deserved to be dropped. As far as being underrated, well, after 2 years of performing poorly, you have to start questioning whether he is underrated or just underperforming.

[10Totti10]

Amon did his calf in the ressies a couple of weeks back but should have never been dropped. Without a doubt the most underrated player in the team. We are a poorer team without him.

I disagree. Amon does give it his all, and runs his guts out BUT his distribution of the ball is shocking. Can't kick a goal from a simple set shot (just as bad if not worse than Playfair). Inconsistent and gives away to many free kicks.
He was right to be dropped but to b honest I'd rather have him than Barlow at the moment.
Also he is not underrated. Sometimes I wish he left instead of Schnieder.

[Mr Magoo]

Amon would only be underrated if he was as fit and firing as he was in 2005. He had the ability to really influence games at that time but for whatever reason (it seems to be alluded to that he has had a lot of underlying injury problems) he is almost a bit part player these days.

Amon in 2009 is overrated if anything and in his current form is not worth perservering with over giving a younger guy the opportunity to learn in the midfield while we still have Kirk and Bolton to support them.