interesting stats on who we've played.

[connolly]

Is this near-obsessive campaign a diversion so no-one will get around to discussing how Bevan should be one of those in the long line of potential candidates for Reserve Grade footy this weekend?

How does the Bevantor come into this? That s not near obsessive. Real obsessive

[connolly]

Well Davis is gone, so he needs someone to vent his spleen against.

Until you mentioned him not only well gone but forgotten.

[ROK Lobster]

Until you mentioned him not only well gone but forgotten.

Never forgotten.

[Bas]

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like to see you do better mate.

We've lost to Saints at telstra, geelong at shell n freo at subiaco...we haven't beaten any of these teams there for a long long long time. (not since roos took over if i recall correctly)

Brisbane were due for a win against us and are playing very well this year.

Extremely Dissapointing first half against the dogs but they were pretty awesome too...pushing geelong all the way the week before.

Yes we've played some terrible quarters this year and it's costs us...but everyteam does. Even Geelong n St Kilda don't win every quarter.

You can all knock the boys n call for lots of changes after every loss but the reality is we're actually doing alright and we're introducing some new talent at the same time.

Overdose of the angry pills?

Excuses excuses excuses.

We were pathetic against freo, lions and dogs. After a blazing first qtr against the saints, the boys fell over.

Geelong is a 50 point better side than us so that is about the only one I agree with.

Three of the games were winable and 13 unanswered goals must be a record.

I'm not calling for changes but something is wrong especially when Shaw has a wobbly like he did.

Could I do better? YES I'm an online expert!

[SimonH]

You add the next games against Hawthorn and Collingwood, and that makes it 8 games out of 12 against top eight sides.

I like to divide the rest of the season into blocks.

Rounds 11-13 Hawthorn-Collingwood-Adelaide
Very tough, although just one win might be OK. Not only are Collingwood and Adelaide are bogie team, they're both in form. Against the grain of recent history I nominate an Olympic Stadium win against the Piesl
...

This is the real crunch period. It would involve no shock results at all for us to get to 5-8. And from 5-8, despite the resilience and professionalism of this playing group, you know that you're going to do no damage, and at best will sneak in apologetically to 8th place.

In that context, talking of the good/bogy sides we've already played is irrelevant, because it's about to get worse before it gets better.

[BSA5]

According to Roos rhetoric yes. According to Roos practise no. For the future yes. For nostalga no.

Would you care to repeat that without the pseudo-intellectual smart-arse twist in language than obscures the fact that you've completely dodged the question?

[Donners]

Was a ridiculous free kick that wasnt even in the contest. His frees against count has drastically reuced over a few seasons ago and he rarely gets pinged. But if it was discussed on On The Couch thats a clincher!!!!

His frees against count has been about one a game every season of his career, so goodness knows how you are trying to distort statistics there.

Roos thought it was bad enough to pull him straight off and talk to him about it, the umpire opted to pay a free, veterans re-watching the footage thought it was worthy of a blast - yet with Bevan-goggles, all is well, apparently.

[Triple B]

I reckon Roosy's message to Bevan could easily have been "What u did to prop and keep him under the ball was good, but put your hands in the air as if attempting to mark, hold your ground and there can be no chance of being pinged for hands in the back". The actual 'dragging' may well have been a regular rotation which happens 50 times a game when somebody is lining up a set shot for goal.

Roos thought it was bad enough to pull him straight off and talk to him about it, the umpire opted to pay a free, veterans re-watching the footage thought it was worthy of a blast - yet with Bevan-goggles, all is well, apparently.

Donners, so even though you haven't directly responded to my quite feasible scenario, I can take it you don't give it any credence.

I'm on record as a fan, certainly not connolly obsessive, but a fan nonetheless. I don't think he's in our top dozen and I don't think he is beyond having the odd poor game or even a shocker (Geelong), but he certainly brings enough to the table to get picked every week.

But the thing about the 'Bevan-goggles' is there is the rose coloured version which I view thru (connolly's are deep crimson) and the totally blinkered ones that you view thru, along with quite a few others. He, along with LRT, polarises views like few others.

I'm prepared absolutely to accept the 'dragged and blasted' scenario may be the correct version, even if u cannot accept my version of possible events, but please PLEASE don't put up footy 'experts', who sit in studios in Melbourne watching the same poor camera angle as the rest, as credible evidence that your version must be correct.

[goswannie14]

Donners, so even though you haven't directly responded to my quite feasible scenario, I can take it you don't give it any credence.

I'm on record as a fan, certainly not connolly obsessive, but a fan nonetheless. I don't think he's in our top dozen and I don't think he is beyond having the odd poor game or even a shocker (Geelong), but he certainly brings enough to the table to get picked every week.

But the thing about the 'Bevan-goggles' is there is the rose coloured version which I view thru (connolly's are deep crimson) and the totally blinkered ones that you view thru, along with quite a few others. He, along with LRT, polarises views like few others.

I'm prepared absolutely to accept the 'dragged and blasted' scenario may be the correct version, even if u cannot accept my version of possible events, but please PLEASE don't put up footy 'experts', who sit in studios in Melbourne watching the same poor camera angle as the rest, as credible evidence that your version must be correct.

Triple B I'm on record as not thinking Bevan is worthy of being in the team due to too many errors, however, I can at least see that your suggetsion could have credence. It is hard to say though, as Roos usually appears to be fairly restrained when talking to players, even when they have stuffed up, but on this occasion he seemed to be pretty worked up and animated about it.

I must ask though, how did we get in to this subject?

[Triple B]

I must ask though, how did we get in to this subject?

Donners thought Bevan ought to be at the front of the 'Welcome to Canberra' line, fair enough, his opinion.

But he added as evidence the 'shove' in the back and the subsequent dragging and bake from Roos.

I just suggested that it was more the Bullies player backing into Bevan's hands than an actual push, which indeed would have been dumb. I then offered an alternative to what Roos may have said (based on the vision) and the 'dragging' may have been a routine rotation.

All the same GS14, you should know by now that with the departure of Davis that most threads will get back to Bevan