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  • Chookbilly
    Sniffing out the pill
    • Mar 2007
    • 393

    You be the coach!

    I believe Paul Roos is a smart coach. But what is his next move.
    Sure we had talented players in 2005, but we certainly didn't have the most talented list.
    Roos has always tailored his gameplan around the cattle available, playing to our core strengths. (which is how is should be).

    He has attempted to tweak things over the course of this season, but with minimal success.
    Now with wholesale generational changes to our side, our gameplan needs to be suited to the strengths of the 'new' team, not the team of old.

    My question to all you RWO people is....
    If you were in Paul Roos shoes, what would your gameplan be?
    I don't buy into the whole copying what is the current trendy blueprint of success. What do you see as our strengths going forward, and how can we best exploit them.
    You can be as detailed as you like.....
    Ed Considine's day out - Round 3, 16th April 1995.
    11 Kicks, 13 Handballs, 8 Marks, 1 Goal, 1 Behind, 1 Tackle, 1 Hitout, 3 Brownlow votes (his only votes)
    Ed = God
  • i'm-uninformed2
    Reefer Madness
    • Oct 2003
    • 4653

    #2
    Re-grow the mullet from his playing days. A fancy, flowing set of locks would send a clear signal to the playing group - set aside convention and run free.
    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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    • Hartijon
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2008
      • 1536

      #3
      Originally posted by Chookbilly
      I believe Paul Roos is a smart coach. But what is his next move.
      Sure we had talented players in 2005, but we certainly didn't have the most talented list.
      Roos has always tailored his gameplan around the cattle available, playing to our core strengths. (which is how is should be).

      He has attempted to tweak things over the course of this season, but with minimal success.
      Now with wholesale generational changes to our side, our gameplan needs to be suited to the strengths of the 'new' team, not the team of old.

      My question to all you RWO people is....
      If you were in Paul Roos shoes, what would your gameplan be?
      I don't buy into the whole copying what is the current trendy blueprint of success. What do you see as our strengths going forward, and how can we best exploit them.
      You can be as detailed as you like.....
      Roosey usually sets the team up well for the opposition.Case in point:Carlton.Our match ups had them in big trouble up to half time.Well done Roosey.The problem comes after that.Ratten reacts ,swings the changes and we are the ones wondering why we no longer have any penetration! If i was Paul Roos I would hire the best available game day strategist to help me once the opposition has blocked all my game plan moves. We gotta learn to ACT not just REACT in this situation.Give them a problem not just react to the problem thay are giving us..we lose when we do this!

      Other changes I would do is to have Shaw on the wing to give us run through there and instruct Matty ,Lrt and Smith etc to kick it in front of him and let him straighten us up through the guts. This is what we have been lacking. I would have had 10 games in the Mountie already with White as a FPP up forward(Mickey to the pocket) I advocated this yonks back! They finally try it and it works.Mickey can't kick 40 metres anymore so he must stick around the goals and crumb it.Ablett would not get a game and Crouch and Bevan would be very closely looked at in the mix that may or may not be selected.Courageous Turning point turnover Ted is no longer available..hope he is ok! Otherwise make form and fit the only criteria for selection to the 1,s..

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      • 10Totti10
        On the Rookie List
        • Apr 2009
        • 443

        #4
        Well, for the future we have to adopt a fast free flowing style. Play through the corridor, play on, etc, etc. We got some young guys, who in a couple of years could use this style very well.

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        • Lucky Knickers
          Fandom of Fabulousness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4220

          #5
          I'd be worried we'd never get out of D50 with Shaw on the wing.
          Please continue with the blueprint we are working from. I really liked our 1st half last week and against Essendon.

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          • Midfield
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2009
            • 196

            #6
            Roos should focus his game plan on one on one contested football at all times. To succeed it will require a team of players with virtues of uncompromised discipline, putting your head over and in line with the football, attacking the ball harder and lower than the opposition, belief that you are never out of the contest and will never give up at any stage of the game and above all, commitment to team above self. We should never trade this for a few goals and pretty footy.

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            • Primmy
              Proud Tragic Swan
              • Apr 2008
              • 5970

              #7
              Recruit players who can run with pace to burn. A few indig boys would be good, especially if they are relatively local. When we lost Willo and Tadgh the direct speed from halfback floundered.

              Also I would like to point out that Rossy Lyons boys are playing the kind of game we used to play. Wonder why.

              Also to play the boys in their best position and not to fiddle too much with their natural talents. Teddy up back, Jesse up forward, Nick Smiff running and crumming from the cente, perhaps Matty O'Dwyer from half back, one day we will have Taylor Gilchrist and Nat Gordon on deck and they are quite quick. Hanners as well, and Johnson.

              All is not lost Ladies and Gentlemen. Well this year it is, but the future is bright red.
              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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              • Hartijon
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2008
                • 1536

                #8
                Originally posted by Midfield
                Roos should focus his game plan on one on one contested football at all times. To succeed it will require a team of players with virtues of uncompromised discipline, putting your head over and in line with the football, attacking the ball harder and lower than the opposition, belief that you are never out of the contest and will never give up at any stage of the game and above all, commitment to team above self. We should never trade this for a few goals and pretty footy.
                Am I missing something? This is our game plan! The one that isn't working and that everybody knows how to counter?

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                • Chookbilly
                  Sniffing out the pill
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 393

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hartijon
                  Am I missing something? This is our game plan! The one that isn't working and that everybody knows how to counter?
                  That's what I was thinking!
                  Without any emoticons I couldn't figure out if it was tongue in cheek
                  Ed Considine's day out - Round 3, 16th April 1995.
                  11 Kicks, 13 Handballs, 8 Marks, 1 Goal, 1 Behind, 1 Tackle, 1 Hitout, 3 Brownlow votes (his only votes)
                  Ed = God

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                  • Midfield
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 196

                    #10
                    Sorry no tongue in cheek. Its currently not working because not enough players are playing by the code. Its unpopular, especially when we lose, but i don?t want to be lost in oblivion for 20 years while we come up with another plan just because its easier.

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                    • Mr Magoo
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2008
                      • 1255

                      #11
                      If anyone watched St Kilda v adelaide, they would know what Midfield is talking about.

                      They played the same ferocious one on one footy we played in 2005/2006 and then counter attacked with a series of succesive goals to blow open the game. We simply dont do that anymore. We are easily scored against and we drop off too many tackles. We dont counterattack well and we dont maintain our game structure when teams step it up like carlton did.


                      St Kilda (and geelong for that matter) also blow away the theory that you need a whole heap of aboriginal boys to be a fast team or alternatively a whole heap of players with lightning pace Thats a whole heap of rubbish, the fastest way to get a ball down the field is when its not in your hands and the best way to do that is with people with good disposal skills. If they happen to be aboriginal then so be it. Choosing players just because they are or arent aboriginal shouldnt be a factor to determine suitability to your gameplan, although there are a few aboriginal boys I would love to see in swans colours.

                      I cant coach and I dont know what Roos needs to do, thats why they pay him the big bucks but I would definitely look at my assistants at the end of the year as I do think some new ideas need to be bought in.

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                      • Bloods05
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1641

                        #12
                        The game plan is important of course, and it's absolutely true that it has to be built around the players you've got, but our problem at the moment is very simple as I see it - we just don't have enough good players. No matter what game plan we try to implement, it won't work consistently because we have too many players past their prime, or too inexperienced, or just plain not good enough and likely to be culled at the end of the year.

                        This will change as the young guys get more experience and we recruit a few more. Every club goes through periods like this. I just hope ours doesn't last as long as Melbourne's or for that matter St Kilda's. I must admit, though, it is galling to see St Kilda implementing our 05/06 game plan so well. Gives you some idea of what we could have done if we'd tanked for about 10 years.

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                        • Donners
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1061

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                          If anyone watched St Kilda v adelaide, they would know what Midfield is talking about.

                          They played the same ferocious one on one footy we played in 2005/2006 and then counter attacked with a series of succesive goals to blow open the game. We simply dont do that anymore. We are easily scored against and we drop off too many tackles. We dont counterattack well and we dont maintain our game structure when teams step it up like carlton did.
                          Probably because we don't have Williams, Kennelly, Davis, Schneider, Fosdike or other players who have the speed and/or skill for a quick counter-attack, nor do we have the luxury of having O'Keefe and McVeigh floating around the forward line rather than doing the grunt work in the middle.

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                          • sWAns63
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 572

                            #14
                            Just a couple of things off the top of my head

                            Try to use Jack as an attacking outside midfielder and not a tagger
                            Give Murphy, Laidlaw & Currie when fit a game or two
                            Pyke as second ruck
                            Mc Veigh under the knife
                            LRT & Bevan more consistent
                            White as permanent forward
                            More games into Hannerberry
                            Goodesy to finish his games strongly
                            Bucky back in
                            Barlow to work on his closing speed
                            Think about who we'll get with our early pick next year ........maybe Butcher
                            Look at Lewis Jetta as a 3rd or 4th round pick in the draft
                            Last edited by sWAns63; 21 July 2009, 05:16 PM.

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                            • Big Al
                              Veterans List
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 7007

                              #15
                              If I was the Coach

                              Walk into the rooms and tell em to play like Geelong and then walk out again. That will be $400k thanks.
                              ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                              Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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