Trading talk thread

[BSA5]

Delidio.

Somehow doubt he'll go anywhere!

Being serious, considering the players that are any chance of being delisted/traded for very little, wouldn't mind a punt on JON. I know it's widely accepted he is a dud. So was Zac Dawson, Rodan, hell, even Rhyce Shaw. Has pace, obviously has talent or he wouldn't have been picked at 8. Would be better than a pick in the 90s. Jake King might be a shot as well, I really like the way he goes about his business, and his poor disposal is largely myth (check his DE% and clangers minus FA stats). Might not be the best player in the world, but you'd always know he'll leave everything he has out on the field. He's the sort of player you want wearing your team colours.

[Legs Akimbo]

Somehow doubt he'll go anywhere!

Being serious, considering the players that are any chance of being delisted/traded for very little, wouldn't mind a punt on JON. I know it's widely accepted he is a dud. So was Zac Dawson, Rodan, hell, even Rhyce Shaw. Has pace, obviously has talent or he wouldn't have been picked at 8. Would be better than a pick in the 90s. Jake King might be a shot as well, I really like the way he goes about his business, and his poor disposal is largely myth (check his DE% and clangers minus FA stats). Might not be the best player in the world, but you'd always know he'll leave everything he has out on the field. He's the sort of player you want wearing your team colours.

PASS

[Industrial Fan]

Jordan McMahon.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[ROK Lobster]

Adam Schneider.

[BSA5]

PASS

Do you rate either of them worse than a pick in the 90s in a shallow draft? Because that's what we're looking at.

[Primmy]

Not often I am in accord with the Lobster, but I would love to have Schneider back.

[Rhys]

I know Tom Harley is probably too old but with alot of our veterans retiring this year we need experienced premiership figures like himself at our club to guide our younger guys.His girlfriend works in Sydney and he previously expressed interest for a move to Sydney. Does anybody know when his contract at Geelong is over?

[hammo]

Has pace, obviously has talent or he wouldn't have been picked at 8. .

That says more about Richmond's recruiting than the player hence why they are the club with arguably the poorest depth in the AFL.

[DST]

I know Tom Harley is probably too old but with alot of our veterans retiring this year we need experienced premiership figures like himself at our club to guide our younger guys.His girlfriend works in Sydney and he previously expressed interest for a move to Sydney. Does anybody know when his contract at Geelong is over?

This year and if you have seen Geelong play much at all this year you will know that this is his last year and even then is likely just to make it to the end of the year.

He is GONE, just like Magic is.

DST

[BSA5]

That says more about Richmond's recruiting than the player hence why they are the club with arguably the poorest depth in the AFL.

But at some point he would have been taken, and looking back he was tipped a top 20 pick or so. Some club would have taken him, would they automatically be bad recruiters? No. He showed heaps at u18 level, and that talent still exists. It's just about making that step. Maybe he doesn't have it in him, but given Richmond's strike rate with kids, I'd be willing to consider the option that it's more Richmond than the actual kids, and give him a go at the Swans. As I said, he's a better prospect than a pick in the 90s.

[liz]

But at some point he would have been taken, and looking back he was tipped a top 20 pick or so. Some club would have taken him, would they automatically be bad recruiters? No. He showed heaps at u18 level, and that talent still exists. It's just about making that step. Maybe he doesn't have it in him, but given Richmond's strike rate with kids, I'd be willing to consider the option that it's more Richmond than the actual kids, and give him a go at the Swans. As I said, he's a better prospect than a pick in the 90s.

But if you look at practically any draft year, a handful of the top 20 players picked will have fallen by the wayside within 3-4 years. For some, injuries bring them unstuck. Others just don't adapt to the demands of professional football, regardless of their latent talent. Some maybe don't "want it" enough to make the necessary sacrifices. Pretty much every club has experienced this with some of its higher picks so it's not really possible to put it down to the environment at one particular club.

Who knows what the reasons are for JON. Maybe part of it is a Richmond factor. But just because he was drafted relatively early 4 years ago, his actual output since becoming a senior listed player can't be ignored.

On the other hand, the "best 22"s of every club are littered with ex-rookies, who are effectively equivalent to picks in the 90s. Sure, the hit rate isn't high, but it is good enough to suggest that if you give enough lesser rated juniors a chance, you'll find some diamonds in the rough. Almost half the team we fielded last weekend started their careers on a rookie list somewhere (and most of them on the Swans rookie list).

[laughingnome]

True enough Liz, but I'm leaning towards BSA5 a little bit here. Richmond's track record at producing stars from good kids is pretty woeful. There has to be something in the club drinking water and can't all be the bad eggs in the top 20.

[BSA5]

But if you look at practically any draft year, a handful of the top 20 players picked will have fallen by the wayside within 3-4 years. For some, injuries bring them unstuck. Others just don't adapt to the demands of professional football, regardless of their latent talent. Some maybe don't "want it" enough to make the necessary sacrifices. Pretty much every club has experienced this with some of its higher picks so it's not really possible to put it down to the environment at one particular club.

Who knows what the reasons are for JON. Maybe part of it is a Richmond factor. But just because he was drafted relatively early 4 years ago, his actual output since becoming a senior listed player can't be ignored.

On the other hand, the "best 22"s of every club are littered with ex-rookies, who are effectively equivalent to picks in the 90s. Sure, the hit rate isn't high, but it is good enough to suggest that if you give enough lesser rated juniors a chance, you'll find some diamonds in the rough. Almost half the team we fielded last weekend started their careers on a rookie list somewhere (and most of them on the Swans rookie list).

Of course. In essence, that's all part of my argument. JON had some talent, that much is clear, and maybe he needs a new home in order to show it. Maybe he doesn't. But compare it to a very late draft pick. At least JON has gotten a few games at AFL level. Hell, he's shown more than Brabazon, for example. I reckon, if we could get him for a late pick, given how deep we will otherwise be reaching into this draft, he's worth a punt.

[Armchair Coach]

Rohan would be a huge cult figure if we drafted him.

A Ranga
Flashy player with great acceleration
Class.

You got my vote at Ranga.

Get him.

[Primmy]

Of course. In essence, that's all part of my argument. JON had some talent, that much is clear, and maybe he needs a new home in order to show it. Maybe he doesn't. But compare it to a very late draft pick. At least JON has gotten a few games at AFL level. Hell, he's shown more than Brabazon, for example. I reckon, if we could get him for a late pick, given how deep we will otherwise be reaching into this draft, he's worth a punt.

Always the voice of reason and once again agree (damn).

And I also would like to put a vote in for Ranga. Been on the radar for a while and wondered about his potential.