Trading talk thread

[ScottH]

I'm only reporting what was said - now take that anyway you like. I personally dont think he will come to the Swans, but then I have been wrong a many times before - but the question needs to be asked - but what if he did? wouldnt that put a cat amoungst the pidgeons?

The media in Melb is still specualting that he will be traded.
He did not attend the Carlton B&F, in which he came 4th.

If he did come our way, I think we'd welcome him with open arms, as we did to Plugger.

[Wardy]

Yep, in fact no-one was hurt, nothing was damaged all he did was get drunk. Who really cares??? Only the morons in the hypocritical press.

Good point there too Rev - the media can make or break someone, yet they are never held up for scrutiny (and lets face it very few of them can lie straight in bed!)

[Reggi]

Yep, in fact no-one was hurt, nothing was damaged all he did was get drunk. Who really cares??? Only the morons in the hypocritical press.

He made an idiot of himself and is a role-model. I don't want him anywhere near us.

Also he takes that out on the field, he's a headcase stay away

On the other hand The Australian reports Luke BAll is up for trade, son of a former player and Chairman of Selectors. Would have been ours without the Collo law?

[goswannie14]

He made an idiot of himselfr

Yes he did, but no-one was hurt or property damaged etc etc.

and is a role-model.

No, he is a sportsman, not a role model. A role model is a parent or someone that a child knows, not someone that they see on TV. Putting celebrities up as role models is usually reserved for either the media, parents who want to avoid their responsibilities as role models or people getting sucked in by the media definition of a role model. IMO.

I don't want him anywhere near us.

You're entitled to that opinion, I couldn't care either way. If he became a swan I would love him as a member of our club, if not, my opinion of him will stay as it is.

[Wardy]

Yes he did, but no-one was hurt or property damaged etc etc. No, he is a sportsman, not a role model. A role model is a parent or someone that a child knows, not someone that they see on TV. Putting celebrities up as role models is usually reserved for either the media, parents who want to avoid their responsibilities as role models or people getting sucked in by the media definition of a role model. IMO.You're entitled to that opinion, I couldn't care either way. If he became a swan I would love him as a member of our club, if not, my opinion of him will stay as it is.

hmm I have been pondering this - the so called "no dickheads" policy will be turned upside down - some say that Hall was a dickhead on the field, (but a lovely bloke off it) - then if we take on Fevola, wont we be replacing the on field dickhead with the off field dickhead? Does this balance out? Actually - do all we end up with in the end is just a dickhead who can kick a ball?

[CureTheSane]

No, he is a sportsman, not a role model. A role model is a parent or someone that a child knows, not someone that they see on TV. Putting celebrities up as role models is usually reserved for either the media, parents who want to avoid their responsibilities as role models or people getting sucked in by the media definition of a role model. IMO.

This argument I see in line with religion, politics and sex.
Just don't go there.
You will never win.
I've tried before, but it seems there is no way of making any inroads into an argument over whether football players are role models.

Seems that they MUST choose their professional and have no rights to living a private lives, because there is a public interest in their profession.

I agree with you wholeheartedly - and to a degree I look forward to watching this thread if the argument develops.

[Cardinal]

Fev might be a bit of a tool when he's drunk but I don't think too many at Carlton would deny that he has a heart of gold. It's not like he committed a major crime other than poor taste and judgement.

Personally I think he'd be great at the club but I doubt he'll end up here.

Has anyone heard the rumours about the drunken antics of a member of the leadership group? I haven't but it's best not to assume all the Swans are sweetness and light, sugar and spice, or some of you moralisers might find your rigid world view gets a knock.

[Reggi]

Yes he did, but no-one was hurt or property damaged etc etc. No, he is a sportsman, not a role model. A role model is a parent or someone that a child knows, not someone that they see on TV. Putting celebrities up as role models is usually reserved for either the media, parents who want to avoid their responsibilities as role models or people getting sucked in by the media definition of a role model. IMO.You're entitled to that opinion, I couldn't care either way. If he became a swan I would love him as a member of our club, if not, my opinion of him will stay as it is.

Are you telling me kids don't take footballers as role models?

[RogueSwan]

I don't want Fev at the Swans, but it isn't up to me is it (unless the gig is open Colless? pm me ).
I would love to see us develop our own forwards. It would be great in two years time when Jesse wins the Coleman and we look back and shake our heads, "draft Fev, what were we thinking?".

[desredandwhite]

No one is untradable, if the price is right. Conversely, I wouldn't say no to any players being traded to us, if the price is right!

Having said that, I doubt we will get Fev - the price will be high and there are doubts on the fit.

[AnnieH]

The media in Melb is still specualting that he will be traded.
He did not attend the Carlton B&F, in which he came 4th.

If he did come our way, I think we'd welcome him with open arms, as we did to Plugger.

Careful when you use the word "we".

[RogueSwan]

Yep, in fact no-one was hurt, nothing was damaged all he did was get drunk. Who really cares??? Only the morons in the hypocritical press.

unless you believe this:

Included in Fevola's disgraceful behaviour on Brownlow night was sexual harassment of a young woman, a profanity-riddled spray on Judd, the smashing of a wine glass and an ugly animated attack on a highly regarded senior player from another club.

source

[hammo]

The fact Carlton would demand a first round pick simply makes any suggestion of a trade for Fevola out of the question.

Hopefully pick 6 will give us a 10 year player, whereas Fev has only 2 or 3 of his best years ahead of him.

Between Goodes, White, Johnston and Currie, we have good options up forward for the immediate and medium future.

[AnnieH]

I don't think the Swannies want to give up pick #6.

SMH: Swans linked with move for fevola

Sydney has pick six in the national draft and Carlton may well ask for that in exchange. But it seems unlikely the Swans would deal with such a high pick, given the need for an injection of youth after a season in which they missed the finals for the first time under Paul Roos' coaching.

More likely is that the Swans would have to offer up a player or two. Perhaps Ryan O'Keefe, who wanted to come home to Melbourne last year before signing a lucrative, long-term deal to stay?

Perhaps. ROK has worked to hard to earn back the respect of the FANS (he said so himself in last Sunday's paper ... social pages). I seriously can't see him going.

[Hartijon]

If Fev can win us a flag then who cares if he is a tool. Look at Locket before we recruited him and boy some people changed their minds 180degrees about him! Apart from that I see no point in the argument that he will help the youngsters. He will attract the ball away from them. Twin towers like White and Fev,Buddy and Roughhead,may work however. I feel we are not ready for a flag challenge and by the time we are Fev will be gone.If the current team was 2 years older recruiting Fev if he was 29 would be a stroke of genius.Now? No.it won't work!