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  • Robbo
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2007
    • 2946

    Draft talk for 2009

    Well the silly season begins now and I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on how we should approach this upcoming draft. We get pick 6 I think which is the highest we've had for a long time.

    We have a pretty good midfield group already to take us into the future, do we need a couple more young mids to complete the puzzle or not?

    White and Johnstone look like being the two we will proceed with in terms of tall forwards, so I don't think we need anymore of those. Maybe we could pick on up in the rookie draft as cover though.

    Should be fine for rucks you would think.

    Bit light on for young key defensive talent so perhaps this is a box we need to tick in the draft, although personally I think we should trade for rather than draft.

    The main need is a small crumbing forward IMO. There's a boy from SA by the name of Tapscott who goes alright and is predicted to go in the top 20.

    So for me, this is how I think we should approach this draft.

    First pick: Small forward
    Second: Outside mid
    Third: Medium/tall defender

    Any additional picks I'm not too bothered with, but I think this is how we should use the first 3.

    What do you want to happen?
  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11328

    #2
    Find a decent quick midfielder. Then again we have one in our midst and judging by his courageous back into a pack tonight he has the hardness too. His name is MOD.
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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8149

      #3
      Originally posted by Nico
      Find a decent quick midfielder. Then again we have one in our midst and judging by his courageous back into a pack tonight he has the hardness too. His name is MOD.
      We desperately need some more pace in the midfield. I'd be after a quick skillful midfielder first up, but a smaller crumbing forward is also an important area to look at. At least Grundy and White are beginning to show that their long term promise may turn into 2 quality afl footballers.
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      • DST
        The voice of reason!
        • Jan 2003
        • 2705

        #4
        Midfield pace all the way.

        DST
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        • hammo
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2003
          • 5554

          #5
          Using our first pick for a small forward would be one of the worst decisions we could make. There's no shortage out there so why waste the best pick we've had since 2002?

          The priority is the midfield - speed and skill. Pick 6 will guarantee this if we play it right.

          We do need a tall defender or two and if our drafting history is anything to go by we'll use a late pick or use the rookie draft.
          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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          • sharp9
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2508

            #6
            Sorry to be hard nosed but I think we must pick ANY player who is DEFINITELY going to be at least very good....ie no lightly framed players who "might" be brilliant....like Ray and McMahon and Fiora etc. With that pick we must be certain he will have the body, not hopeful....you can use a lower pick on a whippet.
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            • thesting
              On the Rookie List
              • Sep 2007
              • 45

              #7
              Forward wise, White's progress this year has been fantastic, Goodes moving to CHF has brought great results and from what I hear (never seen him), Johnstone will be a player.

              Defensively, Grundy has found a home, Bolton is still going strong, and my heart is in my moth less and less now when LRT gets the ball.

              Quick, skillful mids should be top of our shopping list this year.

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #8
                There will be a good number of tallish, quick and skilful midfielders at pick six this year, like Lucas, Dustin Martin and Rohan, and we are likely to be pretty happy with whichever one is taken. There are usually very good picks available at pick 22 as well. So I feel confident that we will add a few more quality young players to the list that already contains. Vez, Merredith, Johnston, Hanners. The key for us to to get these young guys fit and playing.

                The biggest disappointment about 2009 was having so many injured youngsters. I do hope that Laidlaw and Schmidt are retained and get a chance to show what they can do (We already know that Schmidt is a good prospect).

                I'm not too worried about the KPPs in both the forward line and defence, especially now that Grundy has settled in and White looks like he will be a very good Forward. I wouldn't be looking for a KPP until at least round 3. The main thing is skill and speed through the midfield. You can't get enough of that in the modern game.

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                • alison.z
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 988

                  #9
                  We've got pick 5 now at the moment ...

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                  • ugg
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                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15961

                    #10
                    Originally posted by alison.z
                    We've got pick 5 now at the moment ...
                    Pick 6, because Melbourne will have a priority pick.
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                    • alison.z
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 988

                      #11
                      Ah i was wondering about that ... thanks for clearing it up!!

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                      • Young Blood
                        On the rise
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 541

                        #12
                        First pick - just take the best player.

                        Our immediate need is quick, skilful midfielders who can win their own ball. Hopefully we have a couple coming through in Hannebery & Meredith.

                        But if we draft a KP player now, they might be ready to take over from Bolton/ Goodes when they retire.

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                        • UglyDuckling
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 452

                          #13
                          This is how i see it
                          1st round- Best available atm looking to be a quality mid or the slight possibility that butcher could slide a la Rich last year

                          2nd - Best available Neville Jetta if we're lucky probably be a mid hopefully a pacey one

                          3rd - Start drafting for position which means height and forward pocket speed/ x factor.

                          4th - Same as 3rd

                          And so on and so forth down through to the rookie list

                          IMO we have plenty of mids on our list but it seems best available in this draft will be mids, so thats where we go. We all know that guns midfields win flags just look at the cats.

                          The deficiencies on our list are KPP not that the ones we have coming through dont look like they could be very good but the depth. If J white or botls got injured atm we have no replacements so picking some up to cover injuries down the draft would be a good idea as now Murphy is gone we have no height.

                          The other problem is a genuine forward pocket. Though Vezzy should do this well next year he should have an eye to the midfield we need a couple of lighting quick forward pocket players to kick crazy goals and chase down running half backs

                          Rucks look ok wth currie Pyke and Orreal playing second fiddle to Angeina Jolly

                          We have a plethora of running half backs

                          Another gun defensive back pocket would be good too, someone who could play on a cyril rioli. We have nick smith but beavan is average we need another one.

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                          • Jeffers1984
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4564

                            #14
                            Pick 6 - Best available. Lucas, Tapscott, Rohan all around this area. Ones who could slide are Butcher (very unlikely), Trengove.

                            Round 2 - Best Available (If Talia is available we'd have to pounce)

                            Round 3 - KPP (although the depth is aparently poor)

                            Round 4 - Small Forward (x-factor, quick rah rah rah)
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                            • Reggi
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2718

                              #15
                              In general considering the picks we've had our drafting has been fair.

                              We need midfielders and lot's of them. My suspicion is we will get draft two very young players, and to fill the gap next year pick up some younger established midfielders from either the SANFL, VFL or WAFL.

                              We need a fit list next year as we will play more guys which I would think will spell the end for Laidlaw, Schmidt & Playfair

                              Given our salary cap, we may end up with an overpaid player from another club, just like we picked up Daffy with Hall

                              I don't know why people will keep emphasising talls with Richards, LRT, Grundy & Bolton. We are getting murdered by run, not in the air.
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