Draft talk for 2009

[UglyDuckling]

Great beleiver in going best available.

This year outside of Butcher, the top 25 all look to be midfielder/utlility types so it will be two midfielders with picks 6 and 14 (unless Butcher falls to 14 which is highly unlikely).

Our second pick at 14 will be the interesting one, if there is someone left who is an outside midfielder with heaps of pace that would be handy.

Our first pick will be on a midfielder who has quality disposa and decsion making skills as we lack depth in this area and modern footy with zones require players who can dispose of the football cleanly.

DST

Have a look at Colyer on youtube he is small so he is small so may slide but is super quick and has better endurance than Rohan. He was right up there with all the draft camp testing

YouTube - afldraftinfo.com - Travis Colyer vs Vic Country - 2009 AFL U18 Championships - July 1st

[robamiee]

he is quick.
But 2 probs i can see.
I would personally like to see our top 2 picks used on players who can pretty much step into the AFl system.
His size, (he would need ot add another 5-10 kilos just to be able to handle the hits...)
His endurance (unsure he maybe ok on this)
and we already have Vez as that crumbing forward...

but an exciting prospect to say the least....

[liz]

We dont have a great need for a tall our backline is settled and we have White, Johnston and Goodes to do our forward line work.

Not sure how you can reach that conclusion.

If we draft a tall now, they are not going to be ready to hold down a key position for at least 3-4 years, by which time Goodes and B2 will be going or gone and LRT will have inched towards veteran status. We might be set for talls in our best 22 for next season but we have practically no depth (apart from our extended rucking division), especially since Murphy has pulled the plug.

And we have absolutely no idea how Johnstone is going to develop.

Sounds like they will go for a pure midfielder with the first pick, but after that there is plenty of scope for seeking out some taller players. And a couple of midgets wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing - a Coyler or a Hooper maybe.

[liz]

he is quick.
But 2 probs i can see.
I would personally like to see our top 2 picks used on players who can pretty much step into the AFl system.
His size, (he would need ot add another 5-10 kilos just to be able to handle the hits...)
His endurance (unsure he maybe ok on this)
and we already have Vez as that crumbing forward...

but an exciting prospect to say the least....

Vezspremi is not a crumbing forward. If he lands up playing as a forward for much of his career, it will be more as a mid-sized forward, ala Nick Davis. But we really need to hope he can develop the endurance to play much further up the ground. If he can, it will be his delivery into the forward line that will prove to be his greatest asset - long, penetrating, high risk but also highly intelligent kicks.

[UglyDuckling]

he is quick.
But 2 probs i can see.
I would personally like to see our top 2 picks used on players who can pretty much step into the AFl system.
His size, (he would need ot add another 5-10 kilos just to be able to handle the hits...)
His endurance (unsure he maybe ok on this)
and we already have Vez as that crumbing forward...

but an exciting prospect to say the least....

He was in the top 10 for the beep test with 14.5

I think both vez should develop into a midfielder once he gets in endurance up spending time forward and midfield through 2010

I do agree that he is small, i cant argue with that, but because we have 6 and 14 i think if we have 1 that steps into AFL it would be pretty good. There isnt really a rush and i would rather a better long term player than the excitement of a good first year.

[Triple B]

With a disclaimer that I know nothing of Colyer bar that 7 min YouTube clip, but his foot skills looks to be a worry.

[UglyDuckling]

Not sure how you can reach that conclusion.

If we draft a tall now, they are not going to be ready to hold down a key position for at least 3-4 years, by which time Goodes and B2 will be going or gone and LRT will have inched towards veteran status. We might be set for talls in our best 22 for next season but we have practically no depth (apart from our extended rucking division), especially since Murphy has pulled the plug.

And we have absolutely no idea how Johnstone is going to develop.

Sounds like they will go for a pure midfielder with the first pick, but after that there is plenty of scope for seeking out some taller players. And a couple of midgets wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing - a Coyler or a Hooper maybe.

I think we are saying the same thing. In the short term there isnt a glaring need to get talls for our backline like Hawthorn have. In the medium term however we need to find some replacements. I totally agree that we have very little depth in talls at the moment.

However i think you are better served using your early picks for gun mids and using lower picks for tall defenders. Gun midfielders are arguably more valuable and you need a few of them to win a flag; the more the merrier. Not that defenders arnt important because obviously they are.

There is also a good history of picking up defenders with later picks Brain Lake was #71 Scarlett f/s at 45 and our man Craig was #33 just to name a few.

Personally i think its a bit of a waste to use an early pick on a defender when we can develop solid ones from further down the draft

[AnnieH]

DRAFT ORDER ....

Priority selection
1. Melbourne

First round
2. Melbourne
3. Richmond
4. Fremantle
5. North Melbourne
6. Sydney Swans
7. West Coast
8. Port Adelaide
9. Hawthorn
10. Essendon
11. Melbourne
12. Brisbane Lions
13. Adelaide
14. Collingwood
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Essendon
17. Geelong

Second round
18. Melbourne
19. Richmond
20. Fremantle
21. North Melbourne
22. West Coast
23. West Coast
24. Port Adelaide
25. North Melbourne
26. Essendon
27. Carlton
28. Sydney Swans
29. Adelaide
30. Collingwood
31. Western Bulldogs
32. St Kilda
33. Geelong

Third round
34. Melbourne
35. Richmond
36. Fremantle
37. North Melbourne
38. Sydney Swans
39. Sydney Swans
40. Port Adelaide
41. North Melbourne
42. Essendon
43. Carlton
44. Richmond
45. Adelaide
46. Collingwood
47. Brisbane Lions
48. Fremantle
49. Geelong

Fourth round
50. Melbourne
51. Richmond
52. Fremantle
53. North Melbourne
54. Sydney Swans
55. West Coast
56. Port Adelaide
57. Hawthorn
58. Essendon
59. Carlton
60. Brisbane Lions
61. Adelaide
62. Collingwood
63. Western Bulldogs
64. St Kilda
65. Geelong

Fifth round
66. Melbourne
67. Richmond
68. Fremantle
69. Hawthorn
70. Sydney Swans
71. West Coast
72. Port Adelaide
73. Hawthorn
74. Essendon
75. Carlton
76. Brisbane Lions
77. Adelaide
78. Collingwood
79. Western Bulldogs
80. St Kilda
81. Geelong

[robamiee]

once you add the 2 collingwood picks in there, it would a while since we seen the swans with so many picks esp at the pointy end...

[UglyDuckling]

once you add the 2 collingwood picks in there, it would a while since we seen the swans with so many picks esp at the pointy end...

Trade week isnt over yet the poo's and wee's will try for our second rounder for Kennedy as will Geelong for the big mummy best case scenario is we loose 38 and 39

[robamiee]

i would be happy for that and use our 4th rndr for an exp player who ahs nom'd for the draft like coughlan...

[DST]

A number of phantom drafts have Collingwood taking at pick 14 Jack Fitzpatrick from the Western Jets.

He is a 201 cm KP player who is described as quick for his size and great skills.

Interesting as at pick 14 I would think we will cast our attention towards a KP defender just like Collingwood.

DST

[UglyDuckling]

So we have picks 6,14,38,54,55

Good to have 2 first rounders in a weak draft

We needs some gun mids with pace and skills and some KP depth

[Hartijon]

A number of phantom drafts have Collingwood taking at pick 14 Jack Fitzpatrick from the Western Jets.

He is a 201 cm KP player who is described as quick for his size and great skills.

Interesting as at pick 14 I would think we will cast our attention towards a KP defender just like Collingwood.

DST

IMO your right but I am not sure the brains trust agrees. If we get Jetta and a KPP it will have been a perfect trade and draft process for the Swans. Now RWO gets so boring after drafting I might sign off soon until the pre-season. A VERY exciting 2010 coming up!Can't wait for our first few games and seeing how our new guys fit in and how much improvement we can get out of our established players.If they got rid of Buchanan surely Ablett won't hold down a position in the 1sts anymore.I think Kennedy and Mc Glynn will give us so much more.

[DST]

IMO your right but I am not sure the brains trust agrees. If we get Jetta and a KPP it will have been a perfect trade and draft process for the Swans. Now RWO gets so boring after drafting I might sign off soon until the pre-season. A VERY exciting 2010 coming up!Can't wait for our first few games and seeing how our new guys fit in and how much improvement we can get out of our established players.If they got rid of Buchanan surely Ablett won't hold down a position in the 1sts anymore.I think Kennedy and Mc Glynn will give us so much more.

Sorry, we won't be going for Jetta wih our first pick as Roos is already on the record as saying that a midfielder with great decision making skills and decent disposal and not speed is what we require. That was going to be Dustin Martin but he is now looking likely to go earlier, so it may mean Lucas.

If Jetta is available at pick 14 they would have a serious look, but they would be more inclined to go with a KP defender at pick 14 as we are sorely in need of one to groom once C Bolton retires in the next couple of years.

DST