Draft talk for 2009

[Bas]

Pick 5 because the priority picks come after Round 1 now. That was the case last year.

Melbourne get pick 1 and then pick 17 (priority) and pick 18. Our next pick is 22, then 38 then 54.

However this is likely to change during trade period.

So we have picks 5, 22, 38, 54, 70.

Might get another 2nd round for Hall or trade for Lake.

Will O''Keefe go? Can't see how things have changed from last year now that we are officially rebuilding.

[liz]

Pick 5 because the priority picks come after Round 1 now. That was the case last year.

Melbourne get pick 1 and then pick 17 (priority) and pick 18. Our next pick is 22, then 38 then 54.

However this is likely to change during trade period.

So we have picks 5, 22, 38, 54, 70.

Might get another 2nd round for Hall or trade for Lake.

Will O''Keefe go? Can't see how things have changed from last year now that we are officially rebuilding.

First year a club qualifies for a priority pick it is after round 1. But if they qualify a second consecutive season - as Melbourne will, unless they beat the Saints today - it is at the start of the draft. So as things stand, we start with pick 6.

I will be flabbergasted if we get a round 2 pick for Hall. I wouldn't be surprised if no club eventually wants him. (I really don't understand why the Dogs would, given the way they play footy.)

Why would O'Keefe go? He is contracted, and despite the innuendo early in the season, nothing about the way he has gone about his footy this year suggests he isn't happy where he is.

[ugg]

Pick 5 because the priority picks come after Round 1 now. That was the case last year.

That is the case if a team finishes with less than 16.5 points in a year. Do it in consecutive seasons and the pick will be shifted to before the first round.

[Reggi]

I will be flabbergasted if we get a round 2 pick for Hall. I wouldn't be surprised if no club eventually wants him. (I really don't understand why the Dogs would, given the way they play footy.)

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You never win a Premiership without an intimidator

They don't have one.

[Bas]

You never win a Premiership without an intimidator

They don't have one.

He'll do that job very well if he isn't suspended.

[Bas]

Why would O'Keefe go? He is contracted, and despite the innuendo early in the season, nothing about the way he has gone about his footy this year suggests he isn't happy where he is.

Well he did want to go back to Melbourne at the end of lasy year and if he also wants to be in and possibly win another GF, it is unlikely to happen if he stays with the Swans. No one ever said he was unhappy with the Swans.

He has played very well for most of the year and would be a valuable asset to a team vying for a premiership.

[UglyDuckling]

I don't know why people will keep emphasising talls with Richards, LRT, Grundy & Bolton. We are getting murdered by run, not in the air.

Have a look at the list, yes our current talls on the field are doing well but we virtually have no depth. The only tall players on the list not playing last night were the three ruckman Richards Johnston Playfair and Barlow. One would expect next year Johnston to take Micky O's place, playfair to be injured or delisted and barlow can hardly play KPP that means we have no one to cover for injuries, no pressure on spots and no one developing to take over from Bolts in a couple of years. When you consider KPP take a few years to be ready for senior footy we need to draft some now. It isnt our first priority but its probably our second after speedy forward pocket midfield types.

Also consider the outs this year Hall O'Loughlin Barry and Murphy to keep list balance we will need to draft at least 4 talls

[Reggi]

Also consider the outs this year Hall O'Loughlin Barry and Murphy to keep list balance we will need to draft at least 4 talls

Rubbish - we have seven

[UglyDuckling]

Rubbish - we have seven

Have a look through the list we have no KPP depth im not saying we need to use our first picks for KPP but somewhere through the draft or rookie draft we need to pick up some talls.

We have 7 what, dwarfs???

[shaun..]

Well the silly season begins now and I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on how we should approach this upcoming draft. We get pick 6 I think which is the highest we've had for a long time.

We have a pretty good midfield group already to take us into the future, do we need a couple more young mids to complete the puzzle or not?

White and Johnstone look like being the two we will proceed with in terms of tall forwards, so I don't think we need anymore of those. Maybe we could pick on up in the rookie draft as cover though.

Should be fine for rucks you would think.

Bit light on for young key defensive talent so perhaps this is a box we need to tick in the draft, although personally I think we should trade for rather than draft.

The main need is a small crumbing forward IMO. There's a boy from SA by the name of Tapscott who goes alright and is predicted to go in the top 20.

So for me, this is how I think we should approach this draft.

First pick: Small forward
Second: Outside mid
Third: Medium/tall defender

Any additional picks I'm not too bothered with, but I think this is how we should use the first 3.

What do you want to happen?

Apparently Tapscott is the best kick in the draft and can play mid too.. i'm sold

[Legs Akimbo]

Apparently Tapscott is the best kick in the draft and can play mid too.. i'm sold

I was bored this morning and watched video from the TAC cup of some of the top-10 likelies.

Tapscott looked the most obvious pick of the lot. Good size, not overly pacy and seems to read the play well, stands up well in tackles.

And his kicking is really magnificent. Just amazing.

Not sold on Butcher or Sculley. Rohan looked like a great runner but disposal looked pretty dodgy (5 minutes of video, so wouldn't know really). Trengrove looks good and Morabito looks raw but obviously has a lot potential. Jetta looks skilled and fast but he' a bit older too.

Tepscott for mine. Then would be focusing on faster midfield players and a couple of KPP defensive types.

[GongSwan]

We desperately need some more pace in the midfield. I'd be after a quick skillful midfielder first up, but a smaller crumbing forward is also an important area to look at. At least Grundy and White are beginning to show that their long term promise may turn into 2 quality afl footballers.

Completely agree, find the quickest bloke we can and make him a midfielder. We need more speed, with Goodes and White forward, we can play Vez as a crumbing forward, or Jack. Defensively, we still have B2 LRT and Grundy finding his feet down there. With marty and Shaw running the ball, that's pretty complete. Midfielders are what we need, fast ones. One of the young ruckmen we have shld be promoted next year, or we stick with Pyke and try to turn him into a footy player, worked with LRT

[Robbo]

I doubt we are planning to make Vez a small forward.

[satchmopugdog]

We have 7 what, dwarfs???[/QUOTE]

LOL

[liz]

I was bored this morning and watched video from the TAC cup of some of the top-10 likelies.

Tapscott looked the most obvious pick of the lot. Good size, not overly pacy and seems to read the play well, stands up well in tackles.

And his kicking is really magnificent. Just amazing.

Not sold on Butcher or Sculley. Rohan looked like a great runner but disposal looked pretty dodgy (5 minutes of video, so wouldn't know really). Trengrove looks good and Morabito looks raw but obviously has a lot potential. Jetta looks skilled and fast but he' a bit older too.

Tepscott for mine. Then would be focusing on faster midfield players and a couple of KPP defensive types.

It's always dangerous to judge on just a few minutes - especially when they are meant to be the highlights - but I was a little underwhelmed by Tapscott's reel too. Sure, he can kick long but that seemed to be pretty much his only style - bang the ball long as often as possible. A team does need some good long kickers, but I think we've drafted for that specifically over the last couple of years, with the results being Vez, Meredith and Hannebury. And all these players have far more strings to their bows than just their long, accurate kicking.

If we're going to get another mid-paced midfielder with that first pick, I think someone who can consistently win the hard ball at stoppages would be a bigger priority. Much as some pace through the middle is an obvious need, it wasn't where we lost yesterday's game against Brisbane. We lost it because we couldn't get first hands on the ball often enough at stoppages.