Official Delistings

[Bas]

He may now just play socially in the amatures for old Carey.

He's in gaol at the moment isn't he?

So I wonder if we will have 4 picks in the national draft or save one for pre-season.

[annew]

15 from memory.

Thanks

[SimonH]

Can't confess to knowing the full story but a family member of mine went to school with Matt and he caught up with him over the last couple of weeks.

Indication was that the doctors reports were not overly great and his injury problems are likely to be on going, which is a shame as he had the talent.

He may now just play socially in the amatures for old Carey.

DST

Realistically, esp with the club's end-of-season report, dud medicals were likely to be the real reason. It surely couldn't be that the club was so blind as to think he couldn't play.

[SimonH]

That just shows you how much of a lottery the draft is.

I think the hit rate is probably roughly the same across all clubs.

Don't know if I've mentioned it but Pelchen from the Hawks reckons we have had the lowest return from the draft of all the clubs in the past few years. Mind you we have had sustained success on the park where it counts and also the least amount of picks.

Our dismal record in around picks 15-25 is a real concern. Hopefully Vespa 2007 and Johnston 2008 (albeit they're pretty high picks) will break the cycle. Outside that part of the draft, our record would be as good as anyone (e.g. in retrospect it turns out we were the winners in the weak 2002 draft).

Where we have been truly blessed is in trading-- having the insight to trade our late first rounders for quality, most likely well in excess for what we would have got if we'd held on and used the picks. Barry Hall #13 and #17 in 2001 (used by St K on Nick dal Santo and to on-trade for Clint Bizzell), Nick Davis for #21 in 2002 (used by Collingwood on Bo Nixon), Darren Jolly for #15 in 2004 (used by Melbourne on Lynden Dunn), Ted Richards for #19 in 2005 (used by Essendon on Courtenay Dempsey).

I can't see anyone wanting to swap the above list of players we've received, for more DOKs and little Willos.

[DST]

Realistically, esp with the club's end-of-season report, dud medicals were likely to be the real reason. It surely couldn't be that the club was so blind as to think he couldn't play.

There is no doubt the club thought he could play.

There is some talk on another forum that he fell out with the footy department, but I find that hard to believe. More likely that both parties got frustrated with the recurring injuries and with that comes times when relationships get strained as they are not getting what they want no matter how hard both are trying.

DST

[liz]

Our dismal record in around picks 15-25 is a real concern. Hopefully Vespa 2007 and Johnston 2008 (albeit they're pretty high picks) will break the cycle. Outside that part of the draft, our record would be as good as anyone (e.g. in retrospect it turns out we were the winners in the weak 2002 draft).

Our record with picks in that range has been dreadful, but I wonder if it is much - or any - worse than other clubs. This time of year you read all sorts of write-ups of underage players that make them all sound like potential Brownlow medallists. Yet the sad reality is that a staggeringly large number of these bright young things barely scrape a few games and many don't even get that far.

Even when you get to see enough of a player to know they have definite AFL ability, there is still a lot of finger crossing needed to see if their bodies hold up. James, Doyle, Fitzgerald were all super talents who succumbed to injury. And the injury jury is still very much out on Johnston, Vezspremi and Meredith, and probably hasn't even convened yet in respect of a number of other young players on our list.

Roos' past keenness for swapping very late first round picks for known quantities is certainly not daft.

[Robbo]

I was shocked when we took O'Keefe with pick 15 in the super draft of 06. We went for a roughy and it blew up in our faces.

I've only seen him play once so can someone who watched him in the ressies offer an explanation as to why we picked him up? What does he do well, what's his disposal like etc.

Laidlaw ravaged by injuries sad to see him go and Braba obviously not up to it.

[Young Blood]

31 existing + 4 newbies = 35 players (by my count)
+ 2 Rookies (Gilchrist and Orreal)

I think we're down to 33 players now.
40 - 5 retirements - 3 traded out - 3 delistings + 4 traded in = 33

Up to seven spots to fill (depending on whether we put Kirk & Goodes on the vets list). Possibly 2 rookie promotions, 4 draft selections, 1 PSD selection.

Eleven off the list in one year is a major cleanout.

[elroy67]

I was shocked when we took O'Keefe with pick 15 in the super draft of 06. We went for a roughy and it blew up in our faces.

Not that every other team gets it right every time with early picks.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/cats-call-time-on-tenace/2009/10/13/1255195784139.html

[Triple B]

....DOK showed ability but no application, and I am now free of Big Bad's weekly summary of him as a spud....

Sorry for the weekly ear bashing.

Believe me, I would have been extremely happy if I was proven wrong, but I told DoctorJ and Reggi after a handful of games way back when and before injury hampered him, that he was a dud.

[Reggi]

Not that every other team gets it right every time with early picks.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews...195784139.html

That draft was pretty thin for midfielders

[hammo]

Not that every other team gets it right every time with early picks.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews...195784139.html

Not every time, but an enviable record nonetheless.

He is the only one of the Cats' five top-10 draft picks in the past decade not to have been a major success.

Like Sydney, Geelong have never had the luxury of very high picks but have made the most of their first round picks when they've had them (and been lucky with some great father son selections).

[CJK]

Only surprise is that Playfair escapes the knife.

[goswannie14]

I can't believe that the Crows have delisted Robert Shirley.

[Primmy]

Only surprise is that Playfair escapes the knife.

Not really when you think of it. The list is 38 or 40 (can't remember) with only 22 required on the day. That leaves us with a balance of fairly inexperienced/unblooded boys.

He is an experienced big bloke, who can pinch hit play in a fair number of positions. He has been around for quite some time and doesn't come across as a bloke with many illusions. Now if I was going to have a backup big bloke who is not going to play every game but can be brought in to cover when someone is out, who would you rather have hanging in the wings. You have the option on the day of a big experienced bloke or one of the less experienced kids. It gives the coaches choice.

It reminds me a bit of when they took Fruity. He didn't get much of a go, but he was worth his weight when he worked with the kids and had a different focus. He could have been brought in to seniors if one of them got injured, but was never going to be a permanent on field player.

I suspect that Playfair is going to have a similar place in the mob.