Official Delistings

[caj23]

I was shocked when we took O'Keefe with pick 15 in the super draft of 06. We went for a roughy and it blew up in our faces.

I've only seen him play once so can someone who watched him in the ressies offer an explanation as to why we picked him up? What does he do well, what's his disposal like etc.
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Yes I remember listening to that draft on SEN and being excited when it got to our pick as Mitch Brown was still available. I was disappointed when O'Keefe's name was read out as he wasn't even rated a top 30 prospect by the experts at the time.

Imagine if we had the 2 big tanks of Brown and White roaming our forward line now

Was that Barham's last draft????

[CJK]

Not really when you think of it.

He is an experienced big bloke...backup big bloke who is not going to play every game but can be brought in to cover when someone is out

All well and good but how you gonna get him on the ground? Boy's crook 24/7!

[Primmy]

All well and good but how you gonna get him on the ground? Boy's crook 24/7!

I understand he worked in stats off ground and did a good line in commentary, but with a year out he may just now be fresh as a daisy. Or not. Since they kept him, then perhaps he will be good to go. Perhaps Mrs Roos had a go at him. Worked with Mick.

[Tuhob]

Yes I remember listening to that draft on SEN and being excited when it got to our pick as Mitch Brown was still available. I was disappointed when O'Keefe's name was read out as he wasn't even rated a top 30 prospect by the experts at the time.

Imagine if we had the 2 big tanks of Brown and White roaming our forward line now

Was that Barham's last draft????

I think so. I believe Kinnear Beatson came on board for the next year (2007) when we picked up Veszpremi, Meredith and Bird in the ND of 2007 and Johnson, Hannebery and Heath last year. Apart from Johnson and Heath who have been injured the others have certainly shown that they could be good players. I have utmost faith in the recruiting team particularly Beatson as his record is v.good when he was Brisbane's chief recruiter and I think this has continued with the swans:

Beatson's Babes

THE BRISBANE LIONS AT THE NAB AFL DRAFT UNDER KINNEAR BEATSON


1997
No.5 ? Luke Power
No.31 ? Simon Black
No.73 ? Beau McDonald

1998
No.1 - Des Headland
No.33 - Craig Bolton

1999
No.30 (Father/son) ? Jonathan Brown

2000
No.13 ? Ash McGrath
No.22 ? Richard Hadley
No.29 ? Jamie Charman

2001
No.19 - Jason Gram

2002
No.3 ? Jared Brennan
No.19 ? Troy Selwood
No.30 ? Daniel Merrett
No.44 ? Anthony Corrie

2003
No.23 ? Matthew Moody
No.33 ? Jed Adcock
No.61 ? Michael Rischitelli

2004
No.18 ? Cameron Wood
No.27 ? Pat Garner
No.45 ? Justin Sherman

2005
No.9 ? Mitchell Clark
No.25 ? Wayde Mills
No.41 ? Rhan Hooper
No.56 ? Joel Patfull

[hammo]

I understand he worked in stats off ground and did a good line in commentary, but with a year out he may just now be fresh as a daisy. Or not. Since they kept him, then perhaps he will be good to go. Perhaps Mrs Roos had a go at him. Worked with Mick.

It's called a playing list which would infer those on it collecting a salary are expected to play a game of football now and then.

[Primmy]

It's called a playing list which would infer those on it collecting a salary are expected to play a game of football now and then.

When you lose six senior players in one hit it would not be unreasonable to hang on to one with senior experience for another season. That's list management.

[Captain]

I think so. I believe Kinnear Beatson came on board for the next year (2007) when we picked up Veszpremi, Meredith and Bird in the ND of 2007 and Johnson, Hannebery and Heath last year. Apart from Johnson and Heath who have been injured the others have certainly shown that they could be good players. I have utmost faith in the recruiting team particularly Beatson as his record is v.good when he was Brisbane's chief recruiter and I think this has continued with the swans:

I think you are onto something here. Beatson record as a recruiter seems miles better than Barhams.

[Plugger46]

When you lose six senior players in one hit it would not be unreasonable to hang on to one with senior experience for another season. That's list management.

One that can't get on the park and one that doesn't offer a hell of a lot when he actually does get on the park.

I'm all for keeping the right balance of youth and experience but I don't see the point in holding on to average, injury-prone, experienced players just for the sake of it.

[ShockOfHair]

Thanks Tuhob, an enlightening post. The guy knows how to recruit for premierships. WE've done all right by him the last two drafts.


As for Playfair, he may not be much, but he can be not much in a number of positions.

[Primmy]

Thanks Tuhob, an enlightening post. The guy knows how to recruit for premierships. WE've done all right by him the last two drafts.


As for Playfair, he may not be much, but he can be not much in a number of positions.

Exactly!!! He may be chewing gum, but at least he exists.

[liz]

To be fair to Barham, we've had a pretty good return on late picks and rookie picks. Not sure exactly when Barham came on board, but to get players of the quality of O'Keefe, Goodes, Buchanan, Malceski, Schneider, Jack, Kirk, Smith at the positions they were picked in the draft probably compares well with most other clubs.

And while our hit rate with earlier picks hasn't been great, I suspect there are plenty of other clubs with equally ordinary records. It ain't an easy task!

[Donners]

As for Playfair, he may not be much, but he can be not much in a number of positions.

Worked for Ryan O'Connor. All he has to do is be big, and that's one thing he can't really stuff up.

[BSA5]

I reckon we've got one more senior list delistment to go.

Assuming we elevate two players to the veterans list to replace Leo and Magic (probably Kirk and Goodes), that leaves us (before delistments) with 4 list spaces to fill (5 retirements, 3 players traded out, 4 traded in).

Thornton seems a certainty for a rookie-list promotion, and apparently Orreal has signed a 2-year senior list deal.

Given that we traded for pick 55 at the end of the trade period, it's likely we intend to use it (though not certain, we didn't use the pick we got in exchange for Rhyce Shaw last year). Assuming we do use it, that's a total of at least 5 picks we intend to use in this draft. We will also probably want to be active in the PSD. We'll probably leave a spot there. So that's 6 list spots we need, plus two for rookies, for a total of 8.

Talking delistments, we've so far got 3. That leaves 7 spots. One more delistment is necessary, and you'd think it will come down to one of Schmidt or Playfair. My guess is that they're waiting to see how Playfair goes. If he's not up to it, Schmidt stays, if he is, Schmidt goes.

[Hartijon]

I reckon we've got one more senior list delistment to go.

Assuming we elevate two players to the veterans list to replace Leo and Magic (probably Kirk and Goodes), that leaves us (before delistments) with 4 list spaces to fill (5 retirements, 3 players traded out, 4 traded in).

Thornton seems a certainty for a rookie-list promotion, and apparently Orreal has signed a 2-year senior list deal.

Given that we traded for pick 55 at the end of the trade period, it's likely we intend to use it (though not certain, we didn't use the pick we got in exchange for Rhyce Shaw last year). Assuming we do use it, that's a total of at least 5 picks we intend to use in this draft. We will also probably want to be active in the PSD. We'll probably leave a spot there. So that's 6 list spots we need, plus two for rookies, for a total of 8.
Talking delistments, we've so far got 3. That leaves 7 spots. One more delistment is necessary, and you'd think it will come down to one of Schmidt or Playfair. My guess is that they're waiting to see how Playfair goes. If he's not up to it, Schmidt stays, if he is, Schmidt goes.

I reckon you are right. Schmidt is a bit unlucky to be in this position because I feel he played well when given the chance and would be less of a risk than Playfair who I can take or leave. Playfair is servicable without being a match winner and one wonders about his skills under extreme pressure. Schmidt is the more likely cool under pressure player and as the GF this year so clearly illustrated,unless you can perform under extreme pressure you will not win a Flag. Having said that,the drafting situation is as interesting as I can remember while the trading has been outstanding.I think all fans are excited about the new Swans team

[Captain]

No way that Schmidt should or will be delisted.