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  • caj23
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 2462

    #46
    Originally posted by Robbo
    I was shocked when we took O'Keefe with pick 15 in the super draft of 06. We went for a roughy and it blew up in our faces.

    I've only seen him play once so can someone who watched him in the ressies offer an explanation as to why we picked him up? What does he do well, what's his disposal like etc.
    .
    Yes I remember listening to that draft on SEN and being excited when it got to our pick as Mitch Brown was still available. I was disappointed when O'Keefe's name was read out as he wasn't even rated a top 30 prospect by the experts at the time.

    Imagine if we had the 2 big tanks of Brown and White roaming our forward line now

    Was that Barham's last draft????

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      #47
      Originally posted by Primmy
      Not really when you think of it.

      He is an experienced big bloke...backup big bloke who is not going to play every game but can be brought in to cover when someone is out
      All well and good but how you gonna get him on the ground? Boy's crook 24/7!
      -

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      • Primmy
        Proud Tragic Swan
        • Apr 2008
        • 5970

        #48
        Originally posted by CJK
        All well and good but how you gonna get him on the ground? Boy's crook 24/7!
        I understand he worked in stats off ground and did a good line in commentary, but with a year out he may just now be fresh as a daisy. Or not. Since they kept him, then perhaps he will be good to go. Perhaps Mrs Roos had a go at him. Worked with Mick.
        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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        • Tuhob
          Pushing for Selection
          • Sep 2003
          • 65

          #49
          Originally posted by Will Sangster
          Yes I remember listening to that draft on SEN and being excited when it got to our pick as Mitch Brown was still available. I was disappointed when O'Keefe's name was read out as he wasn't even rated a top 30 prospect by the experts at the time.

          Imagine if we had the 2 big tanks of Brown and White roaming our forward line now

          Was that Barham's last draft????
          I think so. I believe Kinnear Beatson came on board for the next year (2007) when we picked up Veszpremi, Meredith and Bird in the ND of 2007 and Johnson, Hannebery and Heath last year. Apart from Johnson and Heath who have been injured the others have certainly shown that they could be good players. I have utmost faith in the recruiting team particularly Beatson as his record is v.good when he was Brisbane's chief recruiter and I think this has continued with the swans:

          Beatson's Babes

          THE BRISBANE LIONS AT THE NAB AFL DRAFT UNDER KINNEAR BEATSON


          1997
          No.5 ? Luke Power
          No.31 ? Simon Black
          No.73 ? Beau McDonald

          1998
          No.1 - Des Headland
          No.33 - Craig Bolton

          1999
          No.30 (Father/son) ? Jonathan Brown

          2000
          No.13 ? Ash McGrath
          No.22 ? Richard Hadley
          No.29 ? Jamie Charman

          2001
          No.19 - Jason Gram

          2002
          No.3 ? Jared Brennan
          No.19 ? Troy Selwood
          No.30 ? Daniel Merrett
          No.44 ? Anthony Corrie

          2003
          No.23 ? Matthew Moody
          No.33 ? Jed Adcock
          No.61 ? Michael Rischitelli

          2004
          No.18 ? Cameron Wood
          No.27 ? Pat Garner
          No.45 ? Justin Sherman

          2005
          No.9 ? Mitchell Clark
          No.25 ? Wayde Mills
          No.41 ? Rhan Hooper
          No.56 ? Joel Patfull

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          • hammo
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2003
            • 5554

            #50
            Originally posted by Primmy
            I understand he worked in stats off ground and did a good line in commentary, but with a year out he may just now be fresh as a daisy. Or not. Since they kept him, then perhaps he will be good to go. Perhaps Mrs Roos had a go at him. Worked with Mick.
            It's called a playing list which would infer those on it collecting a salary are expected to play a game of football now and then.
            "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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            • Primmy
              Proud Tragic Swan
              • Apr 2008
              • 5970

              #51
              Originally posted by hammo
              It's called a playing list which would infer those on it collecting a salary are expected to play a game of football now and then.
              When you lose six senior players in one hit it would not be unreasonable to hang on to one with senior experience for another season. That's list management.
              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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              • Captain
                Captain of the Side
                • Feb 2004
                • 3602

                #52
                Originally posted by Tuhob
                I think so. I believe Kinnear Beatson came on board for the next year (2007) when we picked up Veszpremi, Meredith and Bird in the ND of 2007 and Johnson, Hannebery and Heath last year. Apart from Johnson and Heath who have been injured the others have certainly shown that they could be good players. I have utmost faith in the recruiting team particularly Beatson as his record is v.good when he was Brisbane's chief recruiter and I think this has continued with the swans:
                I think you are onto something here. Beatson record as a recruiter seems miles better than Barhams.

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                • Plugger46
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3674

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Primmy
                  When you lose six senior players in one hit it would not be unreasonable to hang on to one with senior experience for another season. That's list management.
                  One that can't get on the park and one that doesn't offer a hell of a lot when he actually does get on the park.

                  I'm all for keeping the right balance of youth and experience but I don't see the point in holding on to average, injury-prone, experienced players just for the sake of it.
                  Bloods

                  "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                  • ShockOfHair
                    One Man Out
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3668

                    #54
                    Thanks Tuhob, an enlightening post. The guy knows how to recruit for premierships. WE've done all right by him the last two drafts.


                    As for Playfair, he may not be much, but he can be not much in a number of positions.
                    The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                    • Primmy
                      Proud Tragic Swan
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5970

                      #55
                      Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                      Thanks Tuhob, an enlightening post. The guy knows how to recruit for premierships. WE've done all right by him the last two drafts.


                      As for Playfair, he may not be much, but he can be not much in a number of positions.


                      Exactly!!! He may be chewing gum, but at least he exists.
                      If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16778

                        #56
                        To be fair to Barham, we've had a pretty good return on late picks and rookie picks. Not sure exactly when Barham came on board, but to get players of the quality of O'Keefe, Goodes, Buchanan, Malceski, Schneider, Jack, Kirk, Smith at the positions they were picked in the draft probably compares well with most other clubs.

                        And while our hit rate with earlier picks hasn't been great, I suspect there are plenty of other clubs with equally ordinary records. It ain't an easy task!

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                        • Donners
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1061

                          #57
                          Originally posted by ShockOfHair

                          As for Playfair, he may not be much, but he can be not much in a number of positions.
                          Worked for Ryan O'Connor. All he has to do is be big, and that's one thing he can't really stuff up.

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                          • BSA5
                            Senior Player
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2522

                            #58
                            I reckon we've got one more senior list delistment to go.

                            Assuming we elevate two players to the veterans list to replace Leo and Magic (probably Kirk and Goodes), that leaves us (before delistments) with 4 list spaces to fill (5 retirements, 3 players traded out, 4 traded in).

                            Thornton seems a certainty for a rookie-list promotion, and apparently Orreal has signed a 2-year senior list deal.

                            Given that we traded for pick 55 at the end of the trade period, it's likely we intend to use it (though not certain, we didn't use the pick we got in exchange for Rhyce Shaw last year). Assuming we do use it, that's a total of at least 5 picks we intend to use in this draft. We will also probably want to be active in the PSD. We'll probably leave a spot there. So that's 6 list spots we need, plus two for rookies, for a total of 8.

                            Talking delistments, we've so far got 3. That leaves 7 spots. One more delistment is necessary, and you'd think it will come down to one of Schmidt or Playfair. My guess is that they're waiting to see how Playfair goes. If he's not up to it, Schmidt stays, if he is, Schmidt goes.
                            Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                            • Hartijon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2008
                              • 1536

                              #59
                              Originally posted by BSA5
                              I reckon we've got one more senior list delistment to go.

                              Assuming we elevate two players to the veterans list to replace Leo and Magic (probably Kirk and Goodes), that leaves us (before delistments) with 4 list spaces to fill (5 retirements, 3 players traded out, 4 traded in).

                              Thornton seems a certainty for a rookie-list promotion, and apparently Orreal has signed a 2-year senior list deal.

                              Given that we traded for pick 55 at the end of the trade period, it's likely we intend to use it (though not certain, we didn't use the pick we got in exchange for Rhyce Shaw last year). Assuming we do use it, that's a total of at least 5 picks we intend to use in this draft. We will also probably want to be active in the PSD. We'll probably leave a spot there. So that's 6 list spots we need, plus two for rookies, for a total of 8.
                              Talking delistments, we've so far got 3. That leaves 7 spots. One more delistment is necessary, and you'd think it will come down to one of Schmidt or Playfair. My guess is that they're waiting to see how Playfair goes. If he's not up to it, Schmidt stays, if he is, Schmidt goes.
                              I reckon you are right. Schmidt is a bit unlucky to be in this position because I feel he played well when given the chance and would be less of a risk than Playfair who I can take or leave. Playfair is servicable without being a match winner and one wonders about his skills under extreme pressure. Schmidt is the more likely cool under pressure player and as the GF this year so clearly illustrated,unless you can perform under extreme pressure you will not win a Flag. Having said that,the drafting situation is as interesting as I can remember while the trading has been outstanding.I think all fans are excited about the new Swans team

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                #60
                                No way that Schmidt should or will be delisted.

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