Is Tadhg kennelly coming back to the swans? YES HE IS!

**Bloods05** · 22 November 2009, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by laughingnome

I've always attributed it to being boned by the zoning rules and never having the money to pay massive clearance fees. No real evidence for that, it was just the impression I got. Happy to be corrected here.

We had 25 years of failure before they even brought in zoning, but you're right, we certainly didn't get one of the stronger zones. The club was badly managed for decades in both a football and a business sense. We never really expected success - which is one reason 2005 was such a surreal experience for me. There was a general perception that we were "too nice", but Roos has shown that "niceness" is not incompatible with success. He has managed to tap in to one aspect of the club's tradition - a commitment to fair play and camaraderie on all levels - but has managed to add to that a grittiness that had been absent for a very long time. We always had a few gritty, highly skilled players, which is why we've won so many Brownlows, but only since Roos has that quality been instilled in the entire team (with the odd exception here and there).

**Bloods05** · 24 November 2009, 12:20 PM

Tadhg talking to Richard Stubbs (Swans supporter) in the next hour or so: abc.net.au/melbourne

**Bloods05** · 24 November 2009, 12:37 PM

Tadhg on NOW!

**AnnieH** · 24 November 2009, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Cheer Squad

I can't say I agree, Annie. Jack Bissett took the club to four consecutive grand finals in the 1930s as captain/coach. So far, Roos has taken us to two.

If we had won consecutive flags, I would have been prepared to say Roos had been our best coach. But unfortunately, we all know what happened in 2006.

There's way, way, way more to coaching than flags - and for me, Roosey ticks all the boxes.

I can't comment on Jack Bissett. I'm sure he was dead way before I was born.

**Wardy** · 24 November 2009, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by AnnieH

There's way, way, way more to coaching than flags - and for me, Roosey ticks all the boxes.

I can't comment on Jack Bissett. I'm sure he was dead way before I was born.

also take into account the game was no where near the professional level in Blissets day as it is now - In reality, Blissets acheivements, whilst wonderful at the time, were really only the equivalent to simple suburban footy - not a national competion that there is now (and I'm not fond of Roos, but he has achieved big things).

**Cheer Squad** · 24 November 2009, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Wardy

also take into account the game was no where near the professional level in Blissets day as it is now - In reality, Blissets achievements....were really only the equivalent to simple suburban footy - not a national competition that there is now (and I'm not fond of Roos, but he has achieved big things).

That is just plain disrespectful.

**Cheer Squad** · 24 November 2009, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Bloods05

We had 25 years of failure before they even brought in zoning, but you're right, we certainly didn't get one of the stronger zones. The club was badly managed for decades in both a football and a business sense. We never really expected success - which is one reason 2005 was such a surreal experience for me. There was a general perception that we were "too nice", but Roos has shown that "niceness" is not incompatible with success. He has managed to tap in to one aspect of the club's tradition - a commitment to fair play and camaraderie on all levels - but has managed to add to that a grittiness that had been absent for a very long time. We always had a few gritty, highly skilled players, which is why we've won so many Brownlows, but only since Roos has that quality been instilled in the entire team (with the odd exception here and there).

Why not? How did the club come to have a culture like that?

**Wardy** · 24 November 2009, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Cheer Squad

That is just plain disrespectful.

How? it is not being disrespectful nor was any intended - its putting it into perspective as to how things were in Blissets day against how it is now - the set up is entirely different. suggest you think before you type!

**Bloody Hell** · 24 November 2009, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Wardy

How? it is not being disrespectful nor was any intended - its putting it into perspective as to how things were in Blissets day against how it is now - the set up is entirely different. suggest you think before you type!

You can't make comparisons across eras...in any sport. You can only ever beat and be judged against your opponents.

The finals were played in (arguably) the strongest competition of the day....can't do any more than that.

**Cheer Squad** · 24 November 2009, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Bloody Hell

You can't make comparisons across eras...in any sport. You can only ever beat and be judged against your opponents.

The finals were played in (arguably) the strongest competition of the day....can't do any more than that.

That's right - you can't make comparisons across eras. Jack Bissett and his teams did their very best against the competition of the day.

We can't know how they'd perform in today's competition - although I suspect Laurie Nash and Bob Pratt, among others, would not have too much trouble getting selected.

***goswannie14*** · 24 November 2009, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Cheer Squad

That's right - you can't make comparisons across eras. Jack Bissett and his teams did their very best against the competition of the day.

We can't know how they'd perform in today's competition - although I suspect Laurie Nash and Bob Pratt, among others, would not have too much trouble getting selected.

Originally posted by Cheer Squad

I can't say I agree, Annie. Jack Bissett took the club to four consecutive grand finals in the 1930s as captain/coach. So far, Roos has taken us to two.

If we had won consecutive flags, I would have been prepared to say Roos had been our best coach. But unfortunately, we all know what happened in 2006.

**Cheer Squad** · 24 November 2009, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by goswannie14

Put it this way - whoever coaches the Swans to more than one flag, I'll consider to be our greatest coach.

**Wardy** · 25 November 2009, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Cheer Squad

Put it this way - whoever coaches the Swans to more than one flag, I'll consider to be our greatest coach.

I'm sure the coach - who ever it may be, will be ever so grateful that they will have your considered approval!

But I still want to know how have I been disrespectful???? My original post read that I thought what he did at the time was wonderful - and it was - so how you read that as being disrespectful beggars belief!

But back on topic - Kennelly is back - lets hope we get a couple of years out of him, that he stays injury free (of course that goes for the entire team) and he might just be a member of our next premiership side (despite being at what some consider the ancient age of 28!)

**Bloods05** · 25 November 2009, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Cheer Squad

Why not? How did the club come to have a culture like that?

I'm pleased to say I'm too young to know that, but the Richmond culture of the last 20 years has something in common with the way we used to be, although our supporters were never, ever that feral. We always loved our club regardless, and no-one ever spat on the coach.

**reigning premier** · 25 November 2009, 11:28 AM

Back in my day.....

Is Tadhg kennelly coming back to the swans? YES HE IS!

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