Bradshaw a Swan

[Bloods05]

Fence sitter

Not entirely fair.

[barry]

As an aside, the Dogs' dynamic duo Fanasia and Eade must be crossing everything they have that Barry Hall works out at Whitten Oval.

In my view, Hall is a distant third to Fevola and Bradshaw in the big name forwards to be switching clubs next season.

My view too. I think the dogs were a bit hasty on Hall. Fev, they probably cant afford, but they should have snapped up Bradshaw.

But, I think Hall will work out for them. I just fear they wont get full 22 games out of him, or akermanis, or johnson due to their age. IMO they went after a KP forward a year or two too late.

Just like us and Everitt.

[Wardy]

Fence sitter

I'm taking the splinters for the team!!!

[Triple B]

This is correct and I'm surprised nobody has made any comment on who the player was.....

Quiz: Who was the player?

Hint: He did eventually get to the Swans, but has moved on (successfully, I may add).

Ross Lyon

Nice one.

Until the original comment was made, I'd forgotten all about that event and then the irony struck me that eventually he made it to Sydney and probably contributed more to the Swans then he would have if he was traded as a player all those years before.

[Reggi]

Nice one.

Until the original comment was made, I'd forgotten all about that event and then the irony struck me that eventually he made it to Sydney and probably contributed more to the Swans then he would have if he was traded as a player all those years before.

Happened two years in a row, it was actually Ross Lyon and Tony McGuiness who the AFL said we could not get under our cap

There was also that situation with Gasper when Wretchmond rorted the rules, not much of a loss though


Seems we are in the box seat (see end of article)

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26233092-5018851,00.html

[Kanga]

I for one would be very pleased to see Bradshaw playing here in Sydney, it may even prompt me to go to a few games. Hopefully the delivery into the fwd line improves so he can kick a bag or two. Good luck to you guys trying to snare him.....

[caj23]

I for one would be very pleased to see Bradshaw playing here in Sydney, it may even prompt me to go to a few games. Hopefully the delivery into the fwd line improves so he can kick a bag or two. Good luck to you guys trying to snare him.....

I'd have thought that you'd be keen to see him line up for your boys instead of us

[ScottH]

I'd have thought that you'd be keen to see him line up for your boys instead of us

Is he on the Roos radar?
Can they afford him?

[giant]

As an aside, the Dogs' dynamic duo Fanasia and Eade must be crossing everything they have that Barry Hall works out at Whitten Oval.

In my view, Hall is a distant third to Fevola and Bradshaw in the big name forwards to be switching clubs next season.

Not as much pressure as Voss will be under if Fev/Brown doesn't work like Bradshaw/Brown.

Love to see Bradshaw in Swans' colours - would be a tremendous coup.

[giant]

The minimum (92.5% of the cap) is as much of an issue as the maximum for a club in the Swans' position. Take out BBBH's salary, half of MOL's salary, half of Leo's salary, Crouch's salary, and now Jolly's salary from our 2009 player payments. Plus while we paid Fosdike and Kennelly little or nothing in '09, at the time of preparing contracts we must have budgetted to pay them within the cap, so they come off the 100% as well. Even adding in fairly generous contracts to Seaby, Mumford and Jesse White, it's hard to see how we wouldn't be more than 7.5% down on our '09 budget. Then on top of that we have the option of counting only half of Goodes' salary (surely our highest-paid player) and half of either JBolt or Kirk's salary by sticking them on the veterans list.

If we didn't get Bradshaw, then likely there'd be some relatively generous contract extension offers to our mid-tier players. And the worst place for a club to be, is to be forced to spend on players more than they're truly worth. That entrenches mediocrity. Can you imagine the ordinary mid-career players running around at Melbourne on seriously good coin, just because they have to pay 92.5% of the cap?

It sounds perverse, but if Bradshaw retires just when Currie, Bird and Hannebery are becoming entrenched superstars of the game, that will give us cap breathing space at just the right time.

List management in the modern age is fiendishly complicated.

On the min cap amount, see this interesting solution from BigFooty that claims the Hawks have been "forward-paying" contract amounts.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645969

Hawthorns salary cap management has been superb over last few years. As the Premiership side we had second lowest salary spend in the competition.
We have also been forward paying contracts, which you are allowed to do if you are under the cap limits. This frees up extra space in your salary cap for future years.
IE If we were $600,000 under the cap this year, we could pay $50,000 of 12 players salaries for next year now.. and count it in this years cap. This leaves us with that extra $600,000 of room in next years cap. We have done this for a few years and have plenty of money to spend.
We have also kept very tight controls on salaries, not overpaying the young kids too early, and not getting into bidding wars over players.

[Bloods05]

Is he on the Roos radar?

Yes, but not on the Roos'.

[AnnieH]

Is he here yet?

[Bloods05]

Is he here yet?

Sit down and put your seatbelt back on, Annie.

[dimelb]

On the min cap amount, see this interesting solution from BigFooty that claims the Hawks have been "forward-paying" contract amounts.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645969

Extraordinary - to me anyway. But how would you like to suddenly have an extra $50K to share with the ATO? The players certainly need their accountants!

[Q...]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645969

(The above is supposed to be the cunning plan devised and implemented by Hawthorn to manage their cap money.)

So which Hawks players are going to play for free and when? I can't see why a player would agree to such a deal. If they are not actually receiving the money and the Hawks are holding it in a different 'account' then that is obviously against the purpose of having a salary cap, whether it's within the rules or not.