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  • bloodsbigot
    Regular in the Side
    • Mar 2010
    • 813

    Originally posted by goswannies
    I'm hurt by his decision - but all will be forgiven by me if he does a RO'K
    I have never quite gotten over Ryan O Keefe to be honest. Not even after 2012.

    Like Doctor said, he's kinda dead to me now (Mitchell). Alarm bells should have gone off when he elected our club under father-son ONLY when we offered him more money and needed to give his dad a job as a sweetener.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      Well ...... what a 24hrs !!!!

      Given I'd love to see Heeney and Hewitt rotating thru the midfield especially now tom has bolted that leaves two genuine spots in the forward line

      Sam Reid
      Luke Breust

      Sam Reid will come back into the forwards as Longmire is a huge fan

      That for means Breust plus a next year pick me thinks

      We need to space out our salary cap with s next year pick but more importantly our forward line needs a Luke Breust

      40 goals per season
      Strong mark for his height
      Gives us a serious forward rotation of targets
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        ATTENTION - I know it's easy to get carried away but this is the Mitchell thread not the drafting and trading thread. Can we keep drafting and trading ideas in the appropriate thread or we end up with two ideas threads going.

        Mitchell going would have been planned some time ago, I'm certain we have a plan.

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          Originally posted by goswannies
          I'm hurt by his decision - but all will be forgiven by me if he does a RO'K
          If he does a ROK, he'll be the highest positioned B&F player playing in the reserves.
          Once you put your hand up to leave, you're gone. It's unfortunate, but it's a trust thing.

          He's an idiot.
          He should have gone to a club like Melbourne, where he is desperately needed, who could have probably paid him a little more, and been a Kennedy-type hero for that club.
          Now he's just a number.
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • grarmy
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2010
            • 406

            What evidence, if any, does anyone have that suggests that Luke Bruest is available?
            "Play like you can’t lose."

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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              Originally posted by grarmy
              What evidence, if any, does anyone have that suggests that Luke Bruest is available?
              None, other than he keeps being mentioned in the press as a player Hawthorn may be willing to trade.

              But I read today that the Swans have asked for draft picks, not players. So we'll have to see what Hawthorn can come up with.

              You'd think a minimum would be pick 14, plus an early 2nd rounder or a future pick for next year.
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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              • longmile
                Crumber
                • Apr 2011
                • 3360

                Originally posted by grarmy
                What evidence, if any, does anyone have that suggests that Luke Bruest is available?
                Hawthorn have openly put him on the trade table

                Personally I dont see how we fit him in

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                • swansrob
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2009
                  • 1265

                  Originally posted by longmile
                  Hawthorn have openly put him on the trade table

                  Personally I dont see how we fit him in
                  Hawthorn have adamantly denied either Breust or Siciliy are on the table

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                  • bungwahl
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2009
                    • 173

                    Originally posted by swansrob
                    Hawthorn have adamantly denied either Breust or Siciliy are on the table
                    Yep - Hawks said Breust is definitely not up for trade.

                    No way we could afford his salary anyway. We'll be after draft picks, not players.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by AnnieH
                      He should have gone to a club like Melbourne, where he is desperately needed, who could have probably paid him a little more, and been a Kennedy-type hero for that club.
                      Now he's just a number.
                      Actually Melbourne have a good young midfield with Viney, Jones, Tyson, Brayshaw, Oliver and Petracca. Hawthorn are transforming into a shell of their former selves. Hawthorn are getting killed in contested possessions and have no one to replace the aging Sam Mitchell, Burgoyne, Hodge and Lewis. They desperately need Tom Mitchell. He could even be their #1 midfielder next year.

                      Originally posted by ernie koala

                      But I read today that the Swans have asked for draft picks, not players. So we'll have to see what Hawthorn can come up with.

                      You'd think a minimum would be pick 14, plus an early 2nd rounder or a future pick for next year.
                      I noticed that the word 'picks' was used in this reference. You might notice that many pundits are saying that the Bryce Gibbs deal should get Adelaide's pick 13 plus a player like Lyons or additional latter draft picks. Mitchell is 4 years younger and has similar stats, probably better considering that Tom plays in a midfield with more ball winners.

                      So pick 14 and 35 (now) sounds about right to me. We might push for the pick Hawthorn should get for Hill if it's in the early 20s, but don't think that will happen. And Hawthorn will likely just offer up pick 14. It also sounds like GC will take next year's first rounder plus a player.

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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        If we're to believe the salaries reported (all we have to go on), Mitchell was offered a similar contract to the one Sinclair got. No wonder he's departing.
                        Bloods

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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2349

                          It will be picks only. We need salary cap space for Heeney and Mills.

                          Jon Ralph suggested on SEN yesterday afternoon that the Swans saw Mitchell as the fifth Beatle and they deliberately lowballed his salary to move him out to open up cap room for the up and coming youngsters.

                          I'd love to see the 8 players the hawks are offering to the Suns. Bet my backside they all play for Box Hill.
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Originally posted by The Big Cat
                            It will be picks only. We need salary cap space for Heeney and Mills.

                            Jon Ralph suggested on SEN yesterday afternoon that the Swans saw Mitchell as the fifth Beatle and they deliberately lowballed his salary to move him out to open up cap room for the up and coming youngsters.

                            I'd love to see the 8 players the hawks are offering to the Suns. Bet my backside they all play for Box Hill.
                            It's been well reported that the Swans would have signed Mitchell back in May this year, had Mitchell wanted to sign the contract. The Swans offered him what we can afford.
                            Mitchell was the one who put off talks until the end of the season.
                            Mitchell put his hand up to leave.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • Melbournehammer
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 1815

                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              If he does a ROK, he'll be the highest positioned B&F player playing in the reserves.
                              Once you put your hand up to leave, you're gone. It's unfortunate, but it's a trust thing.

                              He's an idiot.
                              He should have gone to a club like Melbourne, where he is desperately needed, who could have probably paid him a little more, and been a Kennedy-type hero for that club.
                              Now he's just a number.
                              Simply not true. ROK was put up years before 2012.

                              Jude Bolton was also put up years before and no-one bid otherwise he would not have been part of 2012.

                              Dempster - our last significant father-son was moved on by the club and played for the saints successfully for years including as an AA.

                              The club as well as the player can f things up royally.

                              I'm content with him going because I think the club actually needs a much more thorough look at the game plan and in particular our outside run and foot skills - which has been poor since the loss of mal and rhyce. But it really does increase the importance of JPK to this team. However important he was before this week (and I'd go so far as to say he is the most important player to any particular club in the league) he has become doubly so if our game plan does not change in any particular way.

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Originally posted by The Big Cat

                                I'd love to see the 8 players the hawks are offering to the Suns. Bet my backside they all play for Box Hill.

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