Bradshaw v Hall???

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  • Robbo
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2007
    • 2946

    #16
    Bradshaw by the length of the Flemington straight. Can't think of one area of the game Hall is better in.

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    • ScottH
      It's Goodes to cheer!!
      • Sep 2003
      • 23665

      #17
      Originally posted by swansrule100
      if we gave hall the delivery over the last few seasons that we give bradshaw at the moment things could be different
      I thought the same, but maybe Bradshaw put's himself in a better position for the ball deliverers??

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #18
        Originally posted by tasswan
        I picked the wrong one, can anyone change for me I meant to pick Bradshaw
        Fixed.

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        • swansrule100
          The quarterback
          • May 2004
          • 4538

          #19
          Originally posted by ScottH
          I thought the same, but maybe Bradshaw put's himself in a better position for the ball deliverers??

          yeh he does present well, i just think it would easy to forget what a great player hall was for this club
          Theres not much left to say

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          • CureTheSane
            Carpe Noctem
            • Jan 2003
            • 5032

            #20
            It appears at this stage of the season, that Badshaw fits in very very well with our tean\m structure, and Hall does likewise at the Dogs....
            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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            • BSA5
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2008
              • 2522

              #21
              Originally posted by Plugger46
              Hall infinitely better over their careers. Hall was arguably the best player in the competition for two years. Bradshaw has never been at that level. Right now, I'd say Bradshaw is the better footballer.

              Hall was a superstar. Very short memories.
              Hall was never anywhere near the best player in the competition. For a while he was one of the best key forwards. Bradshaw is better now, and has had a better career. You have to remember that Bradshaw spent large amounts of time as a key defender, and never once was the main target up forward, competing with the likes of Alistair Lynch and Jono Brown. Bradshaw would not have received nearly as many opportunities to kick goals as Hall, and yet the numbers are pretty even.
              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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              • baskin
                Long Term Injury List
                • Jan 2008
                • 286

                #22
                Barry was wonderful for us but fell in a big heap from the Staker hit onwards. He seemed to acquire a bad case of the 'angries' and, from what I've seen of the Doggies games, he hasn't really lost them.
                The Doggies used 'poor disposal' and 'poor player management' as it's selling point to fans. But Barry was dropping marks all over the place in those last couple of seasons, couldn't turn or bend over. That has nothingto do with the ball not coming to him. Go back and look at a few games from 2005 & 2006, Barry was a different player altogether and we were playing the same game plan.

                As far as comparing Hall v Bradshaw pre. 2010 it isn't really possible. Hall was the focal point, Mickey O the support. At the Brions Brown was the focal point while Bradshaw was the support. Now that Bradshaw is the focal point we are seeing what he can do. I'm loving it!

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                • cruiser
                  What the frack!
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 6114

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Plugger46
                  Hall infinitely better over their careers. Hall was arguably the best player in the competition for two years. Bradshaw has never been at that level. Right now, I'd say Bradshaw is the better footballer.

                  Hall was a superstar. Very short memories.
                  I think it's fairly obvious that we are talking about now, not over their careers which has no relevance to this debate.
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                  • UglyDuckling
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 452

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BSA5
                    Hall was never anywhere near the best player in the competition. For a while he was one of the best key forwards. Bradshaw is better now, and has had a better career. You have to remember that Bradshaw spent large amounts of time as a key defender, and never once was the main target up forward, competing with the likes of Alistair Lynch and Jono Brown. Bradshaw would not have received nearly as many opportunities to kick goals as Hall, and yet the numbers are pretty even.
                    didnt bazza win the league mvp award in 2005 that would suggest to me that he was certainly one of the best players in the league that year. Voted by the coaches means a fair bit i reckon

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                    • Yuri H
                      That One Over There
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 588

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Damien
                      Bradshaw all the way, but Hally, thanks for the memories.
                      I clicked Bradshaw (though I like Annie's write-in vote).

                      Last night was finally the "let go of the old flame" moment for me. We'll always have 2005, Barry, but ... there's someone new. Who's a little less pugilistic.

                      Hmm, now I really have to change my pic.

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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BSA5
                        Hall was never anywhere near the best player in the competition.
                        Rubbish. Just about everyone had him in their top 5 in '05 and '06.
                        Bloods

                        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                        • Jewels
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3258

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Yuri H
                          I clicked Bradshaw (though I like Annie's write-in vote).

                          Last night was finally the "let go of the old flame" moment for me. We'll always have 2005, Barry, but ... there's someone new. Who's a little less pugilistic.

                          Hmm, now I really have to change my pic.
                          I reckon the two fists in the air after the big torp went through would be a pretty good replacement!

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                          • Plugger46
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3674

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cruiser
                            I think it's fairly obvious that we are talking about now, not over their careers which has no relevance to this debate.
                            Really? I don't believe the opening post made that clear.
                            Bloods

                            "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                            • BSA5
                              Senior Player
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2522

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Plugger46
                              Rubbish. Just about everyone had him in their top 5 in '05 and '06.
                              Top 10 in 06 at the most.
                              Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                              • Lucky Knickers
                                Fandom of Fabulousness
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4220

                                #30
                                Bradshaw's performance at the Swans in his first 5 games makes you wonder what his career may have been had he been the nbr 1 forward in a good side. I've read some posts by Blions fans on other forums that haven't rated his defence and he's been great and locking the ball in and creating other opportunities. He's great on the lead, great in a one-on-one and also seems pretty good off the ground. If Scarlett is back next week should be a great contest.
                                No problems with his night vision too which is a bonus.

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