Bradshaw v Hall???

[Jewels]

Bradshaw's performance at the Swans in his first 5 games makes you wonder what his career may have been had he been the nbr 1 forward in a good side. I've read some posts by Blions fans on other forums that haven't rated his defence and he's been great and locking the ball in and creating other opportunities. He's great on the lead, great in a one-on-one and also seems pretty good off the ground. If Scarlett is back next week should be a great contest.
No problems with his night vision too which is a bonus.

Not to mention those steel traps of hands he has.
The man can take a mark!

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Bradshaw is better now and was before. Don't get me wrong, Hall was brilliant for us and was a beast during our 2003-2006 era but Bradshaw has still managed to star along side Lynch and Brown throughout his career. Had he been the main focus up forward for the majority of his career like Hall has been he'd be way in front on goals kicked.

We have some great marks in our side now, too. Bradshaw, Goodes, O'Keefe, Grundy, White can all take a really strong grab.

[Bloody Hell]

Hall infinitely better over their careers. Hall was arguably the best player in the competition for two years. Bradshaw has never been at that level. Right now, I'd say Bradshaw is the better footballer.

Hall was a superstar. Very short memories.

Think the comparison is right now....and gotta say having watched the Dogs vs Saints game I think we were lucky to lose him when we did.

He looked like a 40yo playing his first game of AFL. Was always following his man to the ball and looked very lost. He's playing much deeper than he did with us and as a result has to rely on his contested marking to secure possessions, which was never his strong suit. His strength was always running and getting the ball on the lead...which I saw none of.

He looks old and slow.

But Bradshaw...!

[Robbo]

Rubbish. Just about everyone had him in their top 5 in '05 and '06.

Wouldn't of thought so.

Cousins, Judd, Goodes, Brown, Riewoldt all comfortably better.

[Industrial Fan]

Hall gave away a critical, but typical free kick reversal against the Saints which in the end probably cost them the game as it was a shot on goal from approx 30m out. Happy to see him do well at the dogs, but reminded me of why I was glad to see the back of him at the Swans.

[TheHood]

Barry Hall has a special place in history with the Sydney Swans. Anyone who says otherwise must be seriously deluded. His time was his golden era of 03 to 07. His form and mental aptitude for the fair contest escaped him after that. His contribution should never be forgotten or unfairly compared to an encumbent.

Daniel Bradshaw does not deserve to have his career definied against that of Baz. I think Dan would have made a superb full-time key forward at any club in the league. I am very happy we picked him. I have liked him from the day I heard he'd miss that final to be with his wife. What a decision...Lions in a rare final and he was a much needed young gun back then. He stood up to Barney that week, his didnt cave in and in the end, both footy and his family are still rewarding him week in and week out.

I agree with the earlier comment, Dan doesnt make me nervous the way Barry's temper did every week in the past few years.

[hot potato]

Just because of the no-nonsense way Bradshaw goes about it, does't bother with throwing bits of grass in the air, pulling up his socks, taking out his mouthgaurd, discarding a glove on the ground, doing deep breathing exercises, practising by trying to get his leg almost vertical in the air, chucking the ball on the ground like a cat with a mouse, stepping out his mark like a fast bowler ........

He just goes straight back, runs straight in and kicks the bloody goal.

hp

[ScottH]

I think Daniel's marking ability is far superior to Barrys.
But, I think Barry's kicking for goal was superior to Daniels.

But on current form, you'd have to give the points to Daniel, after all, Barry's getting far better delivery than Daniel.
Or so they say.

[Plugger46]

Wouldn't of thought so.

Cousins, Judd, Goodes, Brown, Riewoldt all comfortably better.

Cousins and Judd were right up there. Goodes was in '06 but not in '05. As for Brown and Riewoldt, definitely not in those years.

[Jeffers1984]

Cousins and Judd were right up there. Goodes was in '06 but not in '05. As for Brown and Riewoldt, definitely not in those years.

Agree. No way were Brown and Riewoldt better than Barry in those years.

Brown struggled with form/suspension/injury and i thought Hall was superior/influencial to Riewoldt at that time anyways.

[SwansFan1972]

if we gave hall the delivery over the last few seasons that we give bradshaw at the moment things could be different

I was one who felt our delivery to him over the last few years was on the worse side of ordinary.

Now I suspect the blame might sit more fairly with Hall himself. Watching the Dogs at the moment it looks like some of our games from last couple of seasons, just in different jerseys. The dogs now look pretty disorganised going forward and have slipped from one of the most precise kicking teams (in particular into the F50) to just run of the mill.

It may just be due to the dogs mids having lost a bit of their accuracy, but maybe it has to with Hall's positioning also. Whatever the reasons, he sure isn't getting the silver service delivery he expected (and talked about) down there and he looks very much the same player for them as he was for us in recent years (including the aggro which looks to be simmering away dangerously).

Even though it ended badly with Hall, we will always have our best footy memories from 2005 with him being a key factor. The split was necessary however and now we all just move on ...

Meanwhile, Bradshaw has slipped us on like Cinderella's slipper and the fit looks and feels perfect.

[Go Swannies]

I was one who felt our delivery to him over the last few years was on the worse side of ordinary.

Now I suspect the blame might sit more fairly with Hall himself. Watching the Dogs at the moment it looks like some of our games from last couple of seasons, just in different jerseys. The dogs now look pretty disorganised going forward and have slipped from one of the most precise kicking teams (in particular into the F50) to just run of the mill.

It may just be due to the dogs mids having lost a bit of their accuracy, but maybe it has to with Hall's positioning also. Whatever the reasons, he sure isn't getting the silver service delivery he expected (and talked about) down there and he looks very much the same player for them as he was for us in recent years (including the aggro which looks to be simmering away dangerously).

Even though it ended badly with Hall, we will always have our best footy memories from 2005 in large part due to him. The split was necessary however and now we all just move on ...

Meanwhile, Bradshaw has slipped us on like Cinderella's slipper and the fit looks and feels perfect.

Is Baz yelling at his midfield yet? That expressed frustration will be what brings him undone again, I reckon. (Yeah, I know that Shaw took on Goodes last year but that's just a one-off heat of battle, not week after week as it was with Baz.) If I was coaching the Dees (god forbid!) I'd tell them to niggle and niggle Baz so he feels hard done by all game - and wait for the blow up.

[Dalai Lama]

Lucy

Bradshaw can see in the dark and mark the ball and kick straighter than Mr Potato Head!

[SwansFan1972]

Is Baz yelling at his midfield yet? That expressed frustration will be what brings him undone again, I reckon. (Yeah, I know that Shaw took on Goodes last year but that's just a one-off heat of battle, not week after week as it was with Baz.) If I was coaching the Dees (god forbid!) I'd tell them to niggle and niggle Baz so he feels hard done by all game - and wait for the blow up.

Our footy tipping comp had three long range predictions for bonus points that needed to be entered prior to the first bounce of round 1:

- Grand Finalists
- Wooden Spooner
- Round in which Bazza would incur his first suspension points for 2010!

I reckoned on the Hawks being at their unsociable best and riling him up enough for a whack in round three (after last year and with Sammy Mitchell there it was a no brainer I thought).

Unfortunately the Hawks play more like socialites rather than unsociables these days and Bazza's temperature never got higher than a warm sweat.

[Plugger46]

Going alright Barry.