Mummy, downgrade - 2 week ban - swans consider appeal

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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16772

    Originally posted by Puppy Eyes
    He deemed the ruckman's second action as unnecessary and said it was "inherently dangerous to with force turn an upper torso with your own body and slam into the ground"."
    Huh? Don't players have to turn the upper torso to avoid an in the back assessment?

    And in terms of the double action, the tackle against ROK last week was far far more a double action. ROK was already clearly impeded and had no chance of breaking the tackle while he still held his feet. It is hard to say there was a double action, but there was continuous pressure on O'Keefe for a far longer period of time as the tackler was intent on bringing him to ground.

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    • hot potato
      Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
      • Jun 2007
      • 1122

      I thought I heard Gerard say on ON THE COUCH that the appeal has been dismissed, or did he get it wrong and the fighting of the charge is tomorrow?

      hp
      "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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      • Matt79
        Bring it on!
        • Sep 2004
        • 3143

        Originally posted by hot potato
        I thought I heard Gerard say on ON THE COUCH that the appeal has been dismissed, or did he get it wrong and the fighting of the charge is tomorrow?

        hp
        The term 'dismissed' is used correctly on this occassion. Had Mummy won the appeal it would have been 'upheld'.
        Swannies for life!

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16772

          Originally posted by Matt79
          The term 'dismissed' is used correctly on this occassion. Had Mummy won the appeal it would have been 'upheld'.
          Technically they have not appealed. The Swans / Mumford have just chosen to have the case heard by the tribunal rather than accepting the recommendation of the MRP. So really, the tribunal has upheld the decision of the MRP (subject to a slight change in the grading). The Swans / Mumford now have the option to appeal the conclusion of the tribunal, if they wish.

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          • chalbilto
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2007
            • 1139

            What have they got lose if they appeal?

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            • swansrule100
              The quarterback
              • May 2004
              • 4538

              Originally posted by chalbilto
              What have they got lose if they appeal?
              airfare to melbourne
              Theres not much left to say

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              • Damien
                Living in 2005
                • Jan 2003
                • 3713

                Originally posted by chalbilto
                What have they got lose if they appeal?
                From memory, it's 15K. The appeal is simply an appeal, it's either upheld or dismissed. No risk associated with it (unless we don't have a spare 15K lying around!)

                Edit: It's only 5K to appeal. Well worth the effort I'd think.

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                • hot potato
                  Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1122

                  They should definitely appeal, because of all the other similar and more aggressive tackles that haven't been see as a problem. I do have an issue with the tackle that pins both arms and the players head is slammed into the ground, very dangerous. However Abletts body was thrown to the ground and his head followed, he was a bit winded, but got up and continued playing.
                  Nup, Don't get this one.
                  The rucking dual is a bit overated anyway, so we can manage for a couple of weeks, Jetta can have a crack at it.

                  hp
                  "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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                  • Triple B
                    Formerly 'BBB'
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6999

                    I've been trying to find, without success, footage of the Kozi on LRT throw in round 1.

                    It happened in the pocket near the new Swans race and was MUCH more forceful and dangerous than Mummy's. On top of that, LRT didn't have the ball and the Aints waltzed away kicking a goal whilst LRT picked himself out of the indentation without so much as a free kick.

                    It's incidents like that one, the ROK one, the Hayes on Murphy slam last night that the Swans should put up in front of the appeals board and ask how the @@@@ they can just pull this one out of their ass to punish.
                    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                    • teddys mum
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 130

                      after all the crap the MRP has copped over this, the AFL will be out (as mentioned by some above) to save face...nothing to lose on appeal but I won't hold my breath
                      up the guts

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                      • Robbo
                        On the Rookie List
                        • May 2007
                        • 2946

                        I hope we take it as far as we possibly can. I want us to take it so far that they make a movie out of it ala The Castle.

                        Absolutely laughable. Ablett dropped the ball, he didn't dispose of it. How can you stop tackling someone half way through?

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                        • Jesse Richards
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 292

                          I think that there is an elephant in the corner - time to name it. The MRP decision not to do anything about the ROK tackle (and the rest) was so obviously wrong. It's like telling someone they've just walked in a dog turd - the response is not "Thank you, I wasn't looking" - no, it's usually an emotional one. Shoot the messenger and all that. That may be a factor, but not the totality.

                          The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that the powers that be (whoever they are) were shocked to find Sydney on top of the ladder and somewhere a decision was made to make it impossible for Sydney to continue their winning streak. "Put them back in their place, where they belong...." or "Hey, we can't have Swans so high up at the end of the season - too much competition for GWS which should be picking up disgruntled Swans fans...."

                          As I said, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me, because none of the official stated reasons do. What's becoming clear to me is the very real possibility of some form of conspiracy - the inner sanctum pulling the strings to ensure certain outcomes - "for the good of the game" of course. The umpires already do it - "this week we'll crack down on .... "

                          Or maybe it's just GAblett worship. And that's another form of Corruption. There, I have named the elephant.

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                          • anniswan
                            Footy Mother Big Time
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2031

                            Originally posted by Jesse Richards
                            I think that there is an elephant in the corner - time to name it. The MRP decision not to do anything about the ROK tackle (and the rest) was so obviously wrong. It's like telling someone they've just walked in a dog turd - the response is not "Thank you, I wasn't looking" - no, it's usually an emotional one. Shoot the messenger and all that. That may be a factor, but not the totality.

                            The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that the powers that be (whoever they are) were shocked to find Sydney on top of the ladder and somewhere a decision was made to make it impossible for Sydney to continue their winning streak. "Put them back in their place, where they belong...." or "Hey, we can't have Swans so high up at the end of the season - too much competition for GWS which should be picking up disgruntled Swans fans...."

                            As I said, it's the only explanation that makes sense to me, because none of the official stated reasons do. What's becoming clear to me is the very real possibility of some form of conspiracy - the inner sanctum pulling the strings to ensure certain outcomes - "for the good of the game" of course. The umpires already do it - "this week we'll crack down on .... "

                            Or maybe it's just GAblett worship. And that's another form of Corruption. There, I have named the elephant.
                            Send this to the club

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                            • Matty10
                              Senior Player
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1331

                              Deep breaths people, deep breaths.

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16772

                                Some good news at last. Seems it is only the Freo match where we will be affected. Next week we can play McGlynn and Jack in the ruck because we're only playing ourselves.

                                Pyke likely to replace Mumford

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