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  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    #91
    Originally posted by Hartijon
    You mentioned not dropping a tall with Buddy and Roughhead to contend with. If we want to lose just put Playfair or Heath on Buddy and Roughhead and see what happens! The back line will be fine with LRT,Grundy,Shaw,Mattner, Smith and somebody like Vez or MOD on a 1/2 back flank.We need the mids to fire and take the pressure off the backlines and give us clearances. Heath's a nice kid and an active debut but not the answer at this point and needs more time.Will be around the mark next year I think.
    Bradshaw, and probably White also, will not be playing. Fact is we are going to be light on for talls, so Playfair is a certainty to stay in the side. As good as LRT and Reg are, Buddy is on fire and if Roughy could kick he's equally as dangerous. Which means Heath ( or if not then another reasonably sized defender) will be needed down back for support. We have Midfielders in the side, we just need them to play well. I dont think we cant drop a tall utility and a Defender and replace them with two smallish midfielders.
    Though i do think one of them should come into the side, it would be at Bevan's expense, not Playfair or Heaths. Therfore Out: Braddy, Kenelly, Bevan In: Mummy, MOD or VES, TDL

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      #92
      Would love to see Sam Reid have a crack.

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      • chuckie
        Warming the Bench
        • Jan 2003
        • 301

        #93
        Roos likes to play three talls in the forward line so why don't they bring Currie in as the replacement for Bradshaw and then have Goodes, Playfair and Currie in the forward line.
        Then they can rotate Mumford, Pyke and Currie through the Ruck, goal square and the bench.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11328

          #94
          Originally posted by Peace
          MOD's disposals have always been a concern for me, he gets plenty of the pill but not often makes the best decision. Vez.... who knows maybe he just isn't putting in 100% on and off the field, he loves his DJ'ing which definitely means he would be going out a fair bit to see the endless amount of international DJ's visiting Sydney all year round, just a thought.

          I really want TDL to string a few games together in the seniors and right now seems like the best time.
          Exactly what we need, someone who can find the pill. You can't slaughter disposal unless you get it. Not enough of our blokes are getting it. Hey, it's not as if the blokes in the side are at the top their disposal game. Desire, pace and enthusiasm is what we need now.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            #95
            Originally posted by Nico
            Exactly what we need, someone who can find the pill. You can't slaughter disposal unless you get it. Not enough of our blokes are getting it. Hey, it's not as if the blokes in the side are at the top their disposal game. Desire, pace and enthusiasm is what we need now.
            If anything his disposal has definitely improved. His game against the Tigers last year at the MCG was a ripper. All class disposals that day.

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11328

              #96
              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
              Bradshaw, and probably White also, will not be playing. Fact is we are going to be light on for talls, so Playfair is a certainty to stay in the side. As good as LRT and Reg are, Buddy is on fire and if Roughy could kick he's equally as dangerous. Which means Heath ( or if not then another reasonably sized defender) will be needed down back for support. We have Midfielders in the side, we just need them to play well. I dont think we cant drop a tall utility and a Defender and replace them with two smallish midfielders.
              Though i do think one of them should come into the side, it would be at Bevan's expense, not Playfair or Heaths. Therfore Out: Braddy, Kenelly, Bevan In: Mummy, MOD or VES, TDL
              Why would you drop Bevo. Lots of people on RWO believe he can play tall. So if he plays tall then that is one less tall you need. Unless of course you have a tall that can play short. If you can bring in a tall that can play short then you have another tall to play up forward which is what Roosey likes. That tall that plays short, can then be crumbing forward that we have been hankering for. If he struggles with the tall crumbing role, he can revert to the tall marking forward role to bring the ball down for the short that plays tall, who then reverts to the short that plays short.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Chilcott
                Regular in the Side
                • Jan 2008
                • 595

                #97
                Originally posted by Nico
                Why would you drop Bevo. Lots of people on RWO believe he can play tall. So if he plays tall then that is one less tall you need. Unless of course you have a tall that can play short. If you can bring in a tall that can play short then you have another tall to play up forward which is what Roosey likes. That tall that plays short, can then be crumbing forward that we have been hankering for. If he struggles with the tall crumbing role, he can revert to the tall marking forward role to bring the ball down for the short that plays tall, who then reverts to the short that plays short.
                At 8.28pm and still in the office, that's brought some light relief. Funny stuff that.

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  #98
                  Why drop Bevo ? Bevo has been inneffectual since coming into the side. We are playing poorly and losing games. I don't think he is going to help us turn that around. I beleive some of the form players in the reserves, if given an oppurtunity, may help us turn that around.

                  My concern is not with his ability to play tall or short or mid sized, it's with his ability to play.

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                  • Jewels
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3258

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                    Why drop Bevo ? Bevo has been inneffectual since coming into the side. We are playing poorly and losing games. I don't think he is going to help us turn that around. I beleive some of the form players in the reserves, if given an oppurtunity, may help us turn that around.

                    My concern is not with his ability to play tall or short or mid sized, it's with his ability to play.
                    I thought Nicos post was taking the p.....

                    Surely...........

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      Yeah good call. I'm a goose

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                      • Far Reach
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 69

                        Originally posted by Nico
                        Why would you drop Bevo. Lots of people on RWO believe he can play tall. So if he plays tall then that is one less tall you need. Unless of course you have a tall that can play short. If you can bring in a tall that can play short then you have another tall to play up forward which is what Roosey likes. That tall that plays short, can then be crumbing forward that we have been hankering for. If he struggles with the tall crumbing role, he can revert to the tall marking forward role to bring the ball down for the short that plays tall, who then reverts to the short that plays short.
                        Name names who will be in. Is Barlow the tall playing short (or is that the other way around)? That leaves McGlynn the short playing tall. Barlow at Mc Gylnn's feet for the crumbs. Forward line fixed!

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11328

                          Originally posted by Far Reach
                          Name names who will be in. Is Barlow the tall playing short (or is that the other way around)? That leaves McGlynn the short playing tall. Barlow at Mc Gylnn's feet for the crumbs. Forward line fixed!
                          It is stretching it a bit for McGlynn to play tall. On the short/tall theory then we should consider teddy boy. Ted is regarded as a tall but isn't that tall so he could be regarded as a short tall being able to play short. The only problem with Ted playing short is he is unable to bend below his knees. This effectively negates his ability to play short. He is not really a tall because he is not that tall and he can't get off the ground to take a mark so his extra tallness is negated. Therefore he can only be regarded as medium, who can match up on a tall forward as long as that tall forward is not that tall. I doubt he could be genuinely used on a short forward because he isn't quick enough to use his tallness to out mark the short forward.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • Peace
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 598

                            from afl.com.au

                            "SYDNEY SWANS
                            Ruckman Shane Mumford will return from suspension against Hawthorn but Daniel Bradshaw and Tadhg Kennelly go out with knee injuries. Ben McGlynn (quad) looks likely to return through the reserves if fit, having missed five weeks. Matt O'Dwyer (54 touches), Trent Dennis-Lane (seven goals) and Pat Veszpremi head the queue of hopefuls, but Jesse White will need to do more after a quiet game for the reserves against Belconnen."


                            gives a good indication of what we realistically have to choose from

                            i'd assume mumford and mcglynn or TDL

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                            • Primmy
                              Proud Tragic Swan
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 5970

                              Originally posted by Captain
                              Would love to see Sam Reid have a crack.
                              Understandable, but he is not physically ready yet. It will take a year in the gym and a mountain of steak and pasta before he fills out enough. He is going to be a very good backman; and yes he is a good read of the play, and he has safe hands, but his body (IMO) is not AFL battle ready yet

                              Really looking forward to him making his first game though.
                              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16737

                                Originally posted by Peace
                                from afl.com.au

                                "SYDNEY SWANS
                                Ruckman Shane Mumford will return from suspension against Hawthorn but Daniel Bradshaw and Tadhg Kennelly go out with knee injuries. Ben McGlynn (quad) looks likely to return through the reserves if fit, having missed five weeks. Matt O'Dwyer (54 touches), Trent Dennis-Lane (seven goals) and Pat Veszpremi head the queue of hopefuls, but Jesse White will need to do more after a quiet game for the reserves against Belconnen."


                                gives a good indication of what we realistically have to choose from

                                i'd assume mumford and mcglynn or TDL
                                I'm glad of the quite strong suggestion that McGlynn won't come straight back in - not because I wouldn't love to see the pre-injury McGlynn back in the side, but because the side can't afford to carry anyone who can't run out the game, especially as we are bound to lose a couple more players to injury before half-time.

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