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  • Matty10
    Senior Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 1331

    #76
    Originally posted by BSA5
    Also, TDL booted 7 goals today apparently. Could be an inclusion. It would be nice to see how he goes, especially if McGlynn doesn't come up again...
    Originally posted by sWAns63
    Gives us some goal scoring ability & speedy CHASERS which we really need the most.
    The Swans really need some genuine goal kickers to come into the team. I don't really know what sort of player TDL is, but if he has some natural talent for finding the sticks, I'd like to see him get a game also. Each week when I have a look at our line-up I really wonder where our goals are going to come from. Of course it makes it harder still when our midfield is down and the delivery into the forward half is sub-par, but that is going to happen from time to time. However, it would be nice if you had some confidence that once the ball goes into the forward line we are at least an average chance of scoring a goal (I am not sure that we are that at the moment).

    I would be nice if we had someone like Betts, Milne, Schneider, Davis, Monfries, etc in our team who could take some of the pressure off the key forwards and perhaps make it easier for the rest of the team to get involved and give the opposition something to worry about also.

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    • snajik
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1115

      #77
      I'm at a loss to understand how we can be coming in to round 10 and neither MOD or Patty has played a senior game. Gobsmacked.

      If White is uninjured he has to come in. Mumford selection is a no-brainer. Pyke must play. Did a great job on Sandilands, however not having a second ruckman allowed Kepleer Bradley to carve us up.
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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        #78
        Originally posted by aardvark
        How many chances do you want him to have. i admit he is a great athlete BUT he has no understanding or feel for the game. He should try out for the Commonwealth Games athletics where he would probably do well.
        Barlow is an example of a player who you think will learn the game sense of AFL to go with his athleticism. They seldom do and when they play, this lack of a football brain is a turnover waiting to happen and they cost you big time. I know he tries very hard but he has proven too often to be too risky

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        • UglyDuckling
          On the Rookie List
          • Aug 2008
          • 452

          #79
          Originally posted by Matty10
          The Swans really need some genuine goal kickers to come into the team. I don't really know what sort of player TDL is, but if he has some natural talent for finding the sticks, I'd like to see him get a game also. Each week when I have a look at our line-up I really wonder where our goals are going to come from. Of course it makes it harder still when our midfield is down and the delivery into the forward half is sub-par, but that is going to happen from time to time. However, it would be nice if you had some confidence that once the ball goes into the forward line we are at least an average chance of scoring a goal (I am not sure that we are that at the moment).

          I would be nice if we had someone like Betts, Milne, Schneider, Davis, Monfries, etc in our team who could take some of the pressure off the key forwards and perhaps make it easier for the rest of the team to get involved and give the opposition something to worry about also.
          Earlier on in the year McGlynn showed that he has the ability to put the ball through the big sticks.
          I am with you though i think we need a genuine small forward instead of mids just resting up there. One who has some pace. Gary Rohan is one who strikes me as someone who wil develop into a forward who can chip in with a couple per game. the other obvious on one is TDL, he kicked almost 70 in the WAFL last year, if he can keep up last weeks form i think he could do some damage in the senior team.

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          • swansrule100
            The quarterback
            • May 2004
            • 4538

            #80
            i dont care so much about the player changes. I want to see a change in style and a change in attidude, want to see desperation and attack. Id rather they go longer and turn the ball over up the ground then piss around in the backline with handball to players with flat feet until they end up turning it over, creating opposition goals.
            Theres not much left to say

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            • Matty10
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2007
              • 1331

              #81
              Originally posted by swansrule100
              i dont care so much about the player changes. I want to see a change in style and a change in attidude, want to see desperation and attack. Id rather they go longer and turn the ball over up the ground then piss around in the backline with handball to players with flat feet until they end up turning it over, creating opposition goals.
              I agree - who wants to see the ball get turned over in defence! Having said that though, I actually thought that they did kick the ball long on the weekend (although this was usually due to a lack of run, pressure etc, rather than a particular focus / desire). It was normally from half back that this occurred - rather than half forward - and it was a complete disaster due to our shocking disposal. There were very few kicks to advantage on the weekend from the Swans.

              You are right in regards to the attitude aspect - that is a real worry.

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                #82
                Originally posted by KirkysSocks
                Love too see Pykey drop back and be groomed as a defender..as long as his disposal is by hand..i think he has the nous to be a good defender and spoiler.

                But then again Andrew Dunkley had the worst disposal i had seen in a footballer in a long time. Maybe Pyke can base his style around dunks? Mark it and then handball to a running defender?
                I could picture Pyke sitting on the 50m line and pulling down a few marks from the kick-in, then handballing off to a sprinting Shaw opening up the forward line. Pity it is only in my mind.
                Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                Aaaah Good Old Dunks. Safe hands, great spoil, punched up Hirdy in that prelim....... we could use another guy like that
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                • Cheer Squad
                  Sydney Swans
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1948

                  #83
                  Originally posted by snajik
                  I'm at a loss to understand how we can be coming in to round 10 and neither MOD or Patty has played a senior game. Gobsmacked.
                  Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Especially about Vespremi. Something's not right. He's been on our list for quite a while now.

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                  • Peace
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 598

                    #84
                    MOD's disposals have always been a concern for me, he gets plenty of the pill but not often makes the best decision. Vez.... who knows maybe he just isn't putting in 100% on and off the field, he loves his DJ'ing which definitely means he would be going out a fair bit to see the endless amount of international DJ's visiting Sydney all year round, just a thought.

                    I really want TDL to string a few games together in the seniors and right now seems like the best time.

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                    • royboy42
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2076

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Matty10
                      The Swans really need some genuine goal kickers to come into the team. I don't really know what sort of player TDL is, but if he has some natural talent for finding the sticks, I'd like to see him get a game also. Each week when I have a look at our line-up I really wonder where our goals are going to come from. Of course it makes it harder still when our midfield is down and the delivery into the forward half is sub-par, but that is going to happen from time to time. However, it would be nice if you had some confidence that once the ball goes into the forward line we are at least an average chance of scoring a goal (I am not sure that we are that at the moment).

                      I would be nice if we had someone like Betts, Milne, Schneider, Davis, Monfries, etc in our team who could take some of the pressure off the key forwards and perhaps make it easier for the rest of the team to get involved and give the opposition something to worry about also.
                      Mcglynn was doing exactly that goal sneak job till injured, and doing it very very well. He is expected to be back, if not TDL must be a chance!

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                      • Hartijon
                        On the Rookie List
                        • May 2008
                        • 1536

                        #86
                        Originally posted by royboy42
                        Mcglynn was doing exactly that goal sneak job till injured, and doing it very very well. He is expected to be back, if not TDL must be a chance!
                        I don't think Mc Glynn will be a starter so why not give TDL a go? 7 goals in the 2's needs rewarding.He was recruited to kick goals,he is doing that,we are short on goal kickers,,the LOGIC to me would be to pick him. So Mummy back and TDL,VEZ and MOD in. Out Bradshaw ,Kennelly, Playfair and Heath.If not Vez then White if we need a big man match up.......not Playfair or Teddy please!

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          #87
                          I don't think we'll be dropping a tall and a defender for two Mids, with buddy and Roughy to contend with. Though i would love to see more fresh faces in the side. Despite losing , it is exciting to see a youthful Swans side for a change

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                          • Melbourne_Blood
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 3312

                            #88
                            Playfair ( Tall) and Heath ( Defender) i mean

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                            • Hartijon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2008
                              • 1536

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              Playfair ( Tall) and Heath ( Defender) i mean
                              You mentioned not dropping a tall with Buddy and Roughhead to contend with. If we want to lose just put Playfair or Heath on Buddy and Roughhead and see what happens! The back line will be fine with LRT,Grundy,Shaw,Mattner, Smith and somebody like Vez or MOD on a 1/2 back flank.We need the mids to fire and take the pressure off the backlines and give us clearances. Heath's a nice kid and an active debut but not the answer at this point and needs more time.Will be around the mark next year I think.

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                              • UglyDuckling
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 452

                                #90
                                i know we all love white, me included but he was sent back to canberra to find some form, which by all reports he didnt do, then injured his ankle. So chances are White will not be back this week. Playfair (who i dislike as much as the next person) had 15 touches at 80% effective and kicked 2 goals which is superior to any of Jessie's performances this year (his best statistically being west coast 11 touches 91% effective 2 goals). As much as i think white has more upside and has the potential to be a very good player he needs to find some form and playfair has done enough to hold his spot. Unless injured there is no chance Playfair will be dropped.

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