Colless Swans still struggling for finances to be competitive

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  • Reggi
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    Colless Swans still struggling for finances to be competitive

    Colless Swans still struggling for finances to be competitive



    No criticism of Richard Colless & Co but it is a bit disappointing we have not been able to get to 30K members every year to have a really solid financial base

    Personally been a member since 93, but would be sure if Swans had 6-7 games in Melb every year (as the supporters were promised) Swans could get 8-10K Vic members every year - meaning 0 games in Geelong but 6-7 at Etihad and MCG

    I don't think GWS is all bad for Sydney but it does increase the challenges
    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler
  • stellation
    scott names the planets
    • Sep 2003
    • 9720

    #2
    What is Kieran Jack's contract situation?
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    • Damien
      Living in 2005
      • Jan 2003
      • 3713

      #3
      Swans have positioned themselves as the AFL love child in Sydney in terms of media etc, we even have pro-league media up here at the moment "worried about the swans". Colless and the Swans admin have been quite cunning in how they have utilised the media, it's quite impressive actually and should mean GWS stay away from our playing group and the AFL take extra care in how we are managed.

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      • swansrule100
        The quarterback
        • May 2004
        • 4538

        #4
        would be interesting to see the books, where our main sources of income are, main expenses. Do we still spend the most on our football department in the afl?
        Theres not much left to say

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        • Bas
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4457

          #5
          Dick should take a pay cut and lower the membership fees.
          In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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          • jono2707
            Goes up to 11
            • Oct 2007
            • 3326

            #6
            Sydney just isn't ready for 2 AFL clubs - looks like the AFL are going to learn this the hard way and I hope this doesn't affect the Swans too badly in the long term....

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            • swansrule100
              The quarterback
              • May 2004
              • 4538

              #7
              Originally posted by Bas
              Dick should take a pay cut and lower the membership fees.

              he doesnt get paid though i thought
              Theres not much left to say

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              • hammo
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2003
                • 5554

                #8
                Colless is a divisive figure and from what I've heard less than popular in the big end of town.

                Notwithstanding his long and generally good service to the club, perhaps a change is in order.
                "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                • Damien
                  Living in 2005
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3713

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hammo
                  Colless is a divisive figure and from what I've heard less than popular in the big end of town.

                  Notwithstanding his long and generally good service to the club, perhaps a change is in order.
                  Works for free and has put in a lot of money without any publicity. Been a great servant and unless someone "Eddie" style came along, I'd have no interest in changing.

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                  • royboy42
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2078

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hammo
                    Colless is a divisive figure and from what I've heard less than popular in the big end of town.

                    Notwithstanding his long and generally good service to the club, perhaps a change is in order.
                    I don't think popularity in the big end is a pre for many CEO spots in this town..plenty disliked, even hated, ppl hold those positions successfully..being liked doesn't run companies. I do not sugg
                    est btw , that Colless is either disliked or inefficient.

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9720

                      #11
                      Originally posted by royboy42
                      I don't think popularity in the big end is a pre for many CEO spots in this town..plenty disliked, even hated, ppl hold those positions successfully..being liked doesn't run companies. I do not sugg
                      est btw , that Colless is either disliked or inefficient.
                      I don't disagree with "being liked doesn't run companies", but it does help when your company relies financially to a large extent on... well... being liked!
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16772

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hammo
                        Colless is a divisive figure
                        How so?

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                        • Damien
                          Living in 2005
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 3713

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stellation
                          I don't disagree with "being liked doesn't run companies", but it does help when your company relies financially to a large extent on... well... being liked!
                          According to reports last year, our guernsey is sponsored for around 3 million a year, which was the highest at the time, so even if he is "disliked" at the top end of town, it doesn't seem to be hurting any relationships the club have formed or maintained in the 16 odd years he has been the Chairman.

                          Having a creative CEO is the key I reckon, hopefully Andrew Ireland can do a few things out of left field to give our club some additional revenue streams and assets. The great cash hope that is Club Swans may provide something, but has been hit with bad luck story after bad luck story so far.

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9720

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Damien
                            According to reports last year, our guernsey is sponsored for around 3 million a year, which was the highest at the time, so even if he is "disliked" at the top end of town, it doesn't seem to be hurting any relationships the club have formed or maintained in the 16 odd years he has been the Chairman.

                            Having a creative CEO is the key I reckon, hopefully Andrew Ireland can do a few things out of left field to give our club some additional revenue streams and assets. The great cash hope that is Club Swans may provide something, but has been hit with bad luck story after bad luck story so far.
                            I have no idea whether people like or dislike him, to be perfectly honest. The dollar figures for geurnsey sponsorship are indeed excellent, but I think it's still reasonable to say that if people in the big end of town actually dislike the president then it isn't a great thing.
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • magic.merkin
                              Senior Player
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1199

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Reggi

                              Personally been a member since 93, but would be sure if Swans had 6-7 games in Melb every year (as the supporters were promised) Swans could get 8-10K Vic members every year - meaning 0 games in Geelong but 6-7 at Etihad and MCG
                              I'd love more matches in Victoria, and I agree it would encourage more melbourne supporters to join up, even if you pay more to cover the game, it still looks better on paper to see more melbourne games.

                              and why do we year in year out have to play Geelong down there? why not another vic side @ their home?

                              Also what the hell is our membership numbers, we rarely see the figure....

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