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  • Reggi
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    • Jan 2003
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    Northern League set to start next year?



    Article on Folau, but mentions AFL to start a northern league? Better competition is always good, I would assume

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  • Damien
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    • Jan 2003
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    #2
    That would be fantastic for us and the Lions and I imagine it would be funded by the GWS/GC AFL budget. It would actually reduce our operating costs as we would no longer have to pay for the Canberra travel and accomodation.

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    • Reggi
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      #3
      Originally posted by Damien
      It would actually reduce our operating costs as we would no longer have to pay for the Canberra travel and accomodation.
      Given Darwin has been mentioned, wouldn't it mean more expensive interstate flights? I think it would provide a better competition and pathway for players, but also a second tier comp and awareness in areas where AFL is strong but no AFL teams (AFL is still strong in the Riverina, ACT, Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast and Cairns areas as well as Darwin)

      Hopefully either the AFL will fund costs or the teams will get some revenue to compensate
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      • Bas
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        #4
        More the reason to get to games early next year and watch the 2's.

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        • ugg
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          • Jan 2003
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          #5
          More detail here

          Victory's Lord pushes for AFL in north Qld

          It is understood that the AFL is leaning towards establishing a conference-based competition involving two second-tier groups - one from New South Wales and the ACT and the other involving Queensland and the Northern Territory - which would make its debut next season.

          The conferences would include reserves sides from the Brisbane Lions, the Swans and the Gold Coast, along with established teams from the NSW-ACT competition and the QAFL.

          AFL Cairns has also put forward a local bid to join the competition and one AFL plan is for the 2011 premier to take on the VFL premier as a curtain-raiser on the MCG on grand final day next year.
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          • liz
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            #6
            Except there isn't such thing as a NSWACT competition. Ideas like this are all fine and well, but what will the impact be on the existing ACT and SFL comps and will they (especially the ACTAFL) be interested in participating?

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            • Damien
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              #7
              Originally posted by Reggi
              Given Darwin has been mentioned, wouldn't it mean more expensive interstate flights? I think it would provide a better competition and pathway for players, but also a second tier comp and awareness in areas where AFL is strong but no AFL teams (AFL is still strong in the Riverina, ACT, Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast and Cairns areas as well as Darwin)

              Hopefully either the AFL will fund costs or the teams will get some revenue to compensate
              If it happens, the AFL will fund it, without question as this will be a major part of the NSW/QLD push by providing a legitimate, high class 2nd tier competition for both states. The Swans have no interest in funding this and are comfortable with the Canberra situation, as the Lions are with the QAFL, so this will be part of the many pay offs the Swans and Lions are due to get in the next few years as their new local rivals have millions pumped into them.

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              • ugg
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                • Jan 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by liz
                Except there isn't such thing as a NSWACT competition. Ideas like this are all fine and well, but what will the impact be on the existing ACT and SFL comps and will they (especially the ACTAFL) be interested in participating?
                Well, the Swans (NSW) play the Canberra teams (ACT) therefore it's an NSW/ACT competition!

                I believe all the Canberra clubs bar Tuggeranong are well cashed-up via their associated leagues clubs and their pokie revenues and wouldn't entertain any sort of merger. So in all likelihood if this were the happen, we would have at least 4 Canberra teams (Belco, Queanbeyan, Eastlake and Ainslie) plus the Swans and GWS which wouldn't leave much room for any Sydney teams (if at all).
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                • stellation
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by liz
                  Except there isn't such thing as a NSWACT competition. Ideas like this are all fine and well, but what will the impact be on the existing ACT and SFL comps and will they (especially the ACTAFL) be interested in participating?
                  Absolutely, that's my biggest concern. I think it's a wonderful idea, but obviously cannot accomodate all the teams in the current ACT/SFL/QAFL competitions and they need to make sure that pulling the teams they choose to out of those competitions doesn't destroy them (the competitions, that is!).

                  That said, I get ugg's logic of it being 4 Canberra clubs + Swans + GWS but still think a hell of a lot of thought needs to be put into this and next year seems very, very soon.

                  Watching a bit of Gold Coast in the VFL, I think it's crucial that GWS play at the highest level possible next year- even if it means getting smashed around by VFL teams for a fair chunk of the season.
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                  • Reggi
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    I think it's crucial that GWS play at the highest level possible next year- even if it means getting smashed around by VFL teams for a fair chunk of the season.
                    Yeah, the earlier they get used to us smashing them around the easier it will be for their supporters to acclimatise
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                    • BeeEmmAre
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                      • Aug 2005
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                      #11
                      A curtain raiser back on grand final day? Bring it on!

                      AFL Cairns has also put forward a local bid to join the competition and one AFL plan is for the 2011 premier to take on the VFL premier as a curtain-raiser on the MCG on grand final day next year.
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                      • Bloody Hell
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                        • Oct 2006
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by liz
                        Except there isn't such thing as a NSWACT competition. Ideas like this are all fine and well, but what will the impact be on the existing ACT and SFL comps and will they (especially the ACTAFL) be interested in participating?
                        Originally posted by stellation
                        Absolutely, that's my biggest concern. I think it's a wonderful idea, but obviously cannot accomodate all the teams in the current ACT/SFL/QAFL competitions and they need to make sure that pulling the teams they choose to out of those competitions doesn't destroy them (the competitions, that is!).

                        That said, I get ugg's logic of it being 4 Canberra clubs + Swans + GWS but still think a hell of a lot of thought needs to be put into this and next year seems very, very soon.

                        Watching a bit of Gold Coast in the VFL, I think it's crucial that GWS play at the highest level possible next year- even if it means getting smashed around by VFL teams for a fair chunk of the season.
                        I don't think it's a concern, they become a thrid tier comp and feed the second tier comp.

                        Something has to be done about the second tier competitions in QLD and particularly NSW. This is one way.

                        Another option would to have a relegation system in place (like the EPL) where AFL reserves teams are exempt and the teams move up or down depending on their finish. Could have 2 from QLD, 1 from SFL, and 1 from Canberra, plus the 4 AFL teams = 8 teams.

                        If any of the teams finish in the bottom 2, then they are relegated and the highest placed team in the corresponding league is promoted. The best players from a team going down, may be poached/traded by the team coming up.

                        I hope this gets up. I have a feeling there's a few threads floating around about this very subject.
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                        • liz
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                          I don't think it's a concern, they become a thrid tier comp and feed the second tier comp.

                          Something has to be done about the second tier competitions in QLD and particularly NSW. This is one way.

                          Another option would to have a relegation system in place (like the EPL) where AFL reserves teams are exempt and the teams move up or down depending on their finish. Could have 2 from QLD, 1 from SFL, and 1 from Canberra, plus the 4 AFL teams = 8 teams.

                          If any of the teams finish in the bottom 2, then they are relegated and the highest placed team in the corresponding league is promoted. The best players from a team going down, may be poached/traded by the team coming up.

                          I hope this gets up. I have a feeling there's a few threads floating around about this very subject.
                          It is not an absolute barrier to setting this competition up, but try telling the proud clubs of Belconnen, Queanbeyan, Southport etc that "it is not a concern". There was an article a month or two back which included some comments from Ireland and an equivalent at the Lions and both were very circumspect in their reactions to the idea.

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                          • Bloody Hell
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                            #14
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                            A Premier Competition for the Swans Reserves and NSW

                            Bring back the old one!
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                            • Damien
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                              • Jan 2003
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                              #15
                              I'd have Swans, GWS, Lions, GC, 2 ACT Teams, NT, Cairns, Southport?, and a SFL rep team.

                              The SFL rep team I reckon would actually improve the SFL, because the reward for being a great player in the SFL would be to play in the Northern League and give exposure to AFl scouts etc. Tasmania did something similiar in the VFL when the statewide league split into two in the 00s (they have since reformed the State League and pulled out of the VFL), but I think this could one of the most exciting things ever for the SFL, obviously some teams losing players to the SFL team would be an issue, but the overall benefits far outweigh the negatives.

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