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  • Doctor
    Bay 29
    • Sep 2003
    • 2757

    #31
    The Cats also had a training run at Kardinia Park against Brisbane today to help them get back into form. Yes we should beat Melbourne and Brisbane but it's hard to call the Hawthorn and Bulldogs games 50/50s. I'm desperately hopeful but I'm going to remain hopeful about our chances rather than optimistic at this stage. Seabs and Braddy back at the business end of the year could make things interesting though.
    Today's a draft of your epitaph

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    • sharp9
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2508

      #32
      I'm not being optimistic....nay....I'm just saying that there are reasons to think some results are possible....and that 5 of them would do!
      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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      • swansrob
        Senior Player
        • May 2009
        • 1265

        #33
        Originally posted by ScottH
        Not really, they still have more points than us , ATM.
        Let's at least wait until the end of the round to give us a chance of reversing that.

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        • DST
          The voice of reason!
          • Jan 2003
          • 2705

          #34
          North losing tonight basically gaurantees us making the finals if we beat one of Melbourne and Brisbane.

          Beat those two and one of either Hawks, Dogs or Cats and we should get a home final.

          DST
          "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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          • Bloody Hell
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2006
            • 3085

            #35

            Bailey Ladder & Finals Predictor - AFL.com.au


            I think we're going to end up playing the Hawks in the Finals...probably the one in the bottom 4 you wouldn't like to meet.
            The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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            • DeadlyAkkuret
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2006
              • 4547

              #36
              Originally posted by ScottH
              Not really, they still have more points than us , ATM.
              You're right, 4 points isn't better than 2.

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              • Jewels
                On the Rookie List
                • Oct 2006
                • 3258

                #37
                Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                You're right, 4 points isn't better than 2.
                The two they got take percentage out of the finals equation.

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #38
                  And now they are still above us.
                  See, bad result for us.

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                  • sWAns63
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 572

                    #39
                    Run home for the Swans: Loss, Maybe, Loss, Maybe, Maybe
                    Last edited by sWAns63; 25 July 2010, 05:35 PM.

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                    • swansrule100
                      The quarterback
                      • May 2004
                      • 4538

                      #40
                      i wouldnt let some of the players run home, id drop them off on the way somewhere out in the forest

                      kirky can hang his head out the window like a dog, maybe he will fall out
                      Last edited by swansrule100; 25 July 2010, 05:50 PM.
                      Theres not much left to say

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                      • sWAns63
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 572

                        #41
                        Originally posted by swansrule100
                        i wouldnt let some of the players run home, id drop them off on the way somewhere out in the forest
                        I wouldn't give em directions on how to get out!

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          #42
                          Originally posted by sWAns63
                          I wouldn't give em directions on how to get out!
                          They probably wouldn't follow them anyway...

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                          • sharp9
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2508

                            #43
                            LOL LOL RAOTFLMAO...at me that is.
                            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                            • Bas
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4457

                              #44
                              Season over, red rover.
                              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                              • SimonH
                                Salt future's rising
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 1647

                                #45
                                The only person more pessimistic than many of you guys is Paul Roos: Roos rating his side currently worthy of finishing anywhere between ?seventh and twelfth?. Of course, quotes taken out of the context of their full sentence can be misleading, and Roos might have been saying that, across our full season performance to date, we deserve to finish between seventh and twelfth.

                                However, if he was saying that we actually might finish 12th... geez, that'd be a stretch. The sides out of the 8 have almost universally awful percentage (the best is Melbourne with 94%, and for them % mostly doesn't matter as they've played a draw). Even presuming that we lose our last 5 games (naturally), a few of them by heavy margins, all of the teams on 12th to 15th spot on the ladder could catch up with us for wins (indeed, even West Coast could still match us for competition points... but I don't think the most gifted mathematician in the world could construct a scenario where the Swans finish last!). However, none of them could realistically catch our percentage. So they'd need to finish with one win more than us to consign us to 12th spot (and this is presuming that all of the teams positioned 9-11 win a few as well). Anyone feel like backing Essendon or Port to win 4 games in the run home? How about Brisbane or Richmond to win all 5?

                                As I think others might have intimated, Sydney could well and truly still make the 8 by winning just one more game. Following Adelaide's performance on the weekend, North Melbourne have by far the best chance of catching an existing top 8 side... and presuming just one more win for us, they still need to win 3 of their last 5 to get their noses in front. Bearing in mind that they play the Dogs and St Kilda (it's very hard to like their chances in either game), they would therefore have to win all 3 of their winnable games (Freo at home, West Coast away, Melbourne) to get over the top of us. The equation is even tougher for the only other teams with any meaningful chance at all, Adelaide and Melbourne, as they need to win 4 from 5 (except in the unlikely event that Adelaide can make up 183 points on us, to get ahead on percentage and therefore only need 3 wins). Adelaide has a shocker, being rewarded for beating Geelong by having to play the other 3 sides ensconced in the top 4 over the next 5 weeks! Melbourne, amazingly, has perhaps the best opportunity of any side outside the 8, in the sense that the worst assignment remaining for them is 6th-placed Hawthorn. If they repeat the dose from yesterday over and over again, they'll win all 5, make the 8 in a canter, and maybe push for 6th spot over Hawthorn! However, consistency has hardly been their friend in 2010, as is to be expected of a young side.

                                There are a huge number of mediocre teams in the comp in 2010 (but really none who have been chopping blocks week-in, week-out all year). That adds up to 'good news' (in heavily inverted commas) for averagely perfoming sides (like us) hoping to make the 8.

                                Maybe not such bad news, really. I think the finals experience from 2003 and 2004 was invaluable in 2005 (especially contrasting the 2004 qualifying final debacle with the 2005 PF last-quarter triumph), and even without the Swans 'playing the yoof' to the extent that some posters would like, the fact remains that something like half the side (11 players, easy) will play their first AFL final in Swans' colours if we make it. That's worth something if we make it to crunch time in 2011.

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