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  • erica
    Happy and I know it
    • Jan 2008
    • 1247

    #91
    What happens if it is a draw next week?
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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    • Nich
      Senior Player
      • May 2010
      • 1291

      #92
      Originally posted by erica
      What happens if it is a draw next week?
      I really hope it happens. It would be kinda cool : )

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      • laughingnome
        Amateur Statsman
        • Jul 2006
        • 1624

        #93
        Originally posted by erica
        What happens if it is a draw next week?
        Persuant to AFL rules, they keep on going. At some point the MCG will be unavailable due to the Cricket Season (The ground is always booked by the AFL for the week after the 1st Grand Final as a precaution), so I guess the Grand Final would be moved to Victoria Park, Docklands,Princes Park, or even Kardinia in a pinch. They'll keep playing every Saturday at 2:30pm until one side is winning after 120 minutes.
        10100111001 ;-)

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        • Matty10
          Senior Player
          • Jun 2007
          • 1331

          #94
          Originally posted by laughingnome
          Persuant to AFL rules, they keep on going. At some point the MCG will be unavailable due to the Cricket Season (The ground is always booked by the AFL for the week after the 1st Grand Final as a precaution), so I guess the Grand Final would be moved to Victoria Park, Docklands,Princes Park, or even Kardinia in a pinch. They'll keep playing every Saturday at 2:30pm until one side is winning after 120 minutes.
          The AFL have stated tonight that the match will go to extra time if it is drawn after regular time next week.

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          • Xie Shan
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2929

            #95
            Originally posted by Matty10
            The AFL have stated tonight that the match will go to extra time if it is drawn after regular time next week.
            Good - as it should be for all future grand finals, hopefully!

            I had a feeling something like this could be on at half time (not the draw obviously, but the closeness of the result!), as much as I think they've had a terrific season, Collingwood had a lot of younger players with <50 games experience, coming up against a team that knows all about the pain of losing grand finals from last year... they had to bury the Saints when they had the chance (And didn't we find this out the hard way two weeks ago... for the record, I don't think we would have been strong enough to get close to the Pies this year had we made it to the GF). I'm not sure who this favours, actually -- Collingwood are probably in better shape and will benefit from the experience, but St Kilda will feel like they escaped with a draw since they trailed for much of the game.

            It was a sensational last quarter, though. Reminded me of 2005-06.
            Last edited by Xie Shan; 25 September 2010, 07:39 PM.

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            • laughingnome
              Amateur Statsman
              • Jul 2006
              • 1624

              #96
              Originally posted by Matty10
              The AFL have stated tonight that the match will go to extra time if it is drawn after regular time next week.
              Interesting.
              10100111001 ;-)

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              • aardvark
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2010
                • 5685

                #97
                Originally posted by laughingnome
                Interesting.
                Just watch the losing team run to the supreme court ASAP after the game if it goes to O.T. Its a bit late to change the rules now.
                Last edited by aardvark; 25 September 2010, 08:23 PM.

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                • Matty10
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1331

                  #98
                  Originally posted by aardvark
                  Just watch the losing team run to the supreme court ASAP after the game if it goes to O.T. Its a bit late to change the rules now.
                  It can't be too late yet - they haven't even played! I'd agree if they changed their minds today - or after another drawn match next weekend - but everyone will go into the match knowing the scenario.

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Matty10
                    It can't be too late yet - they haven't even played! I'd agree if they changed their minds today - or after another drawn match next weekend - but everyone will go into the match knowing the scenario.
                    Agree... shame the brain dead idiots at the AFL didn't change this a long time ago. Grand Final day deserves a winner. How good would have extra time have been today?
                    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                    Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                    • aardvark
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5685

                      Originally posted by Matty10
                      It can't be too late yet - they haven't even played! I'd agree if they changed their minds today - or after another drawn match next weekend - but everyone will go into the match knowing the scenario.
                      True....but everyone new the rules at the start of the season too. One of the biggest problems with this game is that the AFL constantly fiddle with the rules on all levels at any old time when it suits them. Dermie on SEN Melb said last night that our game is unique in that the season is not decided by a penalty shootout. Sure it would be exciting but AFL grand finals are a war of attrition and wars are never decided by penalty shootouts. If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.

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                      • Primmy
                        Proud Tragic Swan
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5970

                        Torn. Thats what I am. Toooorrrn.....it should be finished now. Overtime ten minutes each way. But what a bloody game......and some of the kings barely had a crowning moment......whattha Davis? What happened to Michael Gardener, does that mean Ben MacEvoy gets a gig next week? Or do they have to play the same team? Anyone?
                        Last edited by Primmy; 26 September 2010, 07:57 AM.
                        If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                        • AnnieH
                          RWOs Black Sheep
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 11332

                          Originally posted by aardvark
                          . If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.
                          Didn't Leon Davis' goal keep the wobbles in the game?
                          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Originally posted by Primmy
                            Torn. Thats what I am. Toooorrrn.....it should be finished now. Overtime ten minutes each way. But what a bloody game......and some of the kings barely had a crowning moment......whattha Davis? What happened to Michael Gardener, does that mean Ben MacEvoy gets a gig next week? Or do they have to play the same team? Anyone?
                            They can pick and choose as they see fit Prims.

                            They say the wobbles are in a better position - player fitness wise.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              Didn't Leon Davis' goal keep the wobbles in the game?
                              If you dare to go over to the dark side and have a look on their board Leon has been hung, drawn and quartered as only Collingwood fans can do.

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                              • Matty10
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1331

                                Originally posted by aardvark
                                If no one wins the battle you retreat, lick your wounds, bury the dead (Leon Davis) and get ready to charge in again. This is a tough sport, it should stay that way.
                                I agree with your position on this for the Grand Final.

                                However, you cannot just keep going with replay upon replay if (in the unlikely event) no-one manages to secure a win the second week around. It would still be a war (in AFL terms) - two huge battles in successive weeks and then extra time (they would never have a penalty shoot-out). That is about as big as it gets in sporting competitions.

                                There is a heap of pressure being put on the AFL now in regards to this rule, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it - but I hope they don't.

                                In another thread, somewhere around here, someone suggested they should give premiership medallions to all the players who played for that team during the season (which I think is a great idea - or alternatively, for normal GF years the club should have victory medals made for their entire playing list). However, this becomes more pertinent with changes to the two teams of Collingwood and St Kilda for next week. If a player misses next week through injury and their team gets up, I hope he is still involved on match day (victory stand, etc).

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