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  • swansrob
    Senior Player
    • May 2009
    • 1265

    Originally posted by Matt80
    I'm also interested to know. If you have a father/son who is a member of a northern academy, who gets first choice? Is it the fathers club or the academy who gets the first choice on a youngster?
    I believe the F/S club gets first pick, then the academy. I seem to remember this being a discussion point when one of the Roos boys was coming through the academy, as P Roos didn't play enough games for Sydney to qualify his kids as F/S pick ups

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16770

      Originally posted by swansrob
      I believe the F/S club gets first pick, then the academy. I seem to remember this being a discussion point when one of the Roos boys was coming through the academy, as P Roos didn't play enough games for Sydney to qualify his kids as F/S pick ups
      Participation as a FS is entirely optional for a player so it can't automatically take precedence. Not sure if players are entitled to decline to be nominated as an Academy player, given they will have benefitted from the training provided by the Academy. Under the old scholarship rules, a player couldn't be declined to be placed on the sponsoring club's senior list, but they were able to decline an automatic rookie list spot if they wanted to take their chances that another club might take them in the National Draft.

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      • ugg
        Can you feel it?
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15970

        The order is moot as it's up to the player to decide which club he wants to join. He can refuse F/S like Marc Murphy famously did.
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        • Matt80
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Sep 2013
          • 1802

          Heeney and Mills were selected in the AFL All Australian U18 squad. They are both in the starting line up.

          Eddie would be proud of the academy progress.

          I noticed that Dunkley did not make it to the U18 squad. Has be been playing well for Victoria Country?

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          • Melb Blood Bro
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2014
            • 204

            Originally posted by Reggi
            Spot on Collingwood amongst others have made some poor recruiting decisions in recent years and are trying to deflect criticism

            I think we will find that AFL's desire to grow north of the Barassi line will exceed many of the complaints. Academies grow the sport and participation.

            AFL should find there courage and say it
            100% correct. The AFL should speak up NOW against McGuire. The trouble is that they're scared of him. Being silent on the issue only gives him more oxygen and gradually damages the brand of the academies.

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            • Matt80
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2013
              • 1802

              Originally posted by Melb Blood Bro
              100% correct. The AFL should speak up NOW against McGuire. The trouble is that they're scared of him. Being silent on the issue only gives him more oxygen and gradually damages the brand of the academies.
              Would you pick an open public fight with Eddie if he was close to members of your board ( your bosses) and could influence the media against you.

              Would you put your mortgage and a place for your children in a elite Melbourne Private School at great risk?

              It's easier to call a review, take some time and politely come to the conclusion that you want i.e. The Academy's are here to stay.

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              • troyjones2525
                Swans Fanatic!
                • Mar 2008
                • 2908

                Saw on the AFL website an article about the upcoming U16 championships and named the players to watch as Harrison Macreadie and Tom Highmore. Does anyone know if either are in our Academy?

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                • Flying South
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 585

                  Found an interesting short piece on Isaac Heeney on a website called Footy Prophet. A footy fantasy team website reviewing the top 10 rookies for next year.



                  "Heeney has emerged as the no. 1 midfield talent in this year?s draft pool which is a huge stroke of luck for the Sydney Swans who can lock him in as an Academy selection with their first round pick. Heeney is simply the most well-rounded midfielder in this draft. He has great ability to win the ball, but also can put on speed and break lines, and has a great penetrating kick. Looks like a potential superstar at AFL, and should be a terrific fantasy player.

                  Where?s he headed?:@Sydney, who are laughing themselves."

                  Yes we are laughing Eddie, but we have put the work into him.

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    As excited I am to be getting a talent like Heeney on to the list for next year, after watching the U18 championships game the other day I think that Mills may even be a more exciting prospect! He just looked classy and clean and with another 12 months development could turn into something special! I know it's only 1 game some I'm not one to judge who will be the better player Heeney v Mills but am interested in the thoughts from the ressies and rams watchers on here?

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                    • MomentByMoment
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 60

                      I've only watched one ressie game so have no runs at all and have never seen Mills.

                      But ...
                      Heeney blew me away.

                      It wasn't just his game it was his swagger. He has a presence about him.

                      Looks like a star in the making.

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                      • Flying South
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 585

                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        Heeney and Mills were selected in the AFL All Australian U18 squad. They are both in the starting line up.
                        I note Jason Saddington was named coach as well. Can anyone tell me more about his coaching credentials?

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16770

                          Originally posted by Flying South
                          I note Jason Saddington was named coach as well. Can anyone tell me more about his coaching credentials?
                          NSW won the Div 2 champs. In the context of the U18 AA team, I believe those are his credentials.

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                          • Flying South
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 585

                            Originally posted by liz
                            NSW won the Div 2 champs. In the context of the U18 AA team, I believe those are his credentials.
                            I meant what other team is he coaching. Is he one of our academy coaches, GWS, Rams?

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6480

                              isnt Saddo a GWS Academy coach also?
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • ugg
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                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15970

                                He used to captain/coach Balmain Dockers.
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