Swans may lose Kennelly again

[BeeEmmAre]

Everytime they have the International Rules this seems to appear, i doubt he'll leave again after this year

Owen's right. The Irish media write this @@@@ every year and Tadhg tells them what they want to hear to keep them happy and shut them up.
He fulfilled his dream last year and I'd be very surprised if he left again before his time was up, which, going on how he played this year, is still a good three or four years away IMO.

[DLBIA14]

No. At home in Ireland he said what the Irish wanted to hear with not a thought for how it would sound to the Swans' supporters. His interview was up there with Jolly's in Melbourne on how the Swans can't compete with the real thing - Kerry/Collingwood/whatever. I finished watching both equally annoyed. I'd say Barry Hall has been more discrete, with much less reason to be so.

Barassi told us all at a Swans dinner that the Swans would always be part of him. That lasted till he landed in Melbourne. Plugger is St Kidla's. Kel manages a foot in both Swans and GWS camps but gets paid by them.

What next, Kirk doing promotions for GWS saying his heart always stayed with his first Albury team and the Swans was just a way to play AFL? Somehow I can't see that - and it really would break my heart if Kirk moved away from the Swans when the next offer came along.

You make a good point. It's a sad reality. Loyalty is transient and is dependent on many variables. Fans, becasue our loyalty is based soley on our emotional investment, get disappointed when its not shown to the same extent by people actually involved in the club.

Kelly, in my mind, is still a Swan through and through no matter who is putting money into his back pocket. Kirky would be the same. The others and Tadgh...well I suppose that's the way the cookie crumbles, but you can somewhat understand their divided loyalties. That's not to say I'm not pissed off that Tadgh is contemplating leaving again. Just make your effing mind up already and stop abusing the Swans generosity...

[Captain]

No loss....

Cya Tadgh!

My thoughts exactly.

Didn't think he added much this season.

[annew]

My thoughts exactly.

Didn't think he added much this season.

I agree - just go home and be done with it

[Bas]

I hope he decides before draft date 2. At least we could draft a player in unlike the last time he decided to go back.

It would be disrespectful to the Club if he decided in February again. We have probably seen his best though.

Oh Danny Bhoy, the spuds, the spuds are calling.................

[Triple B]

No. At home in Ireland he said what the Irish wanted to hear with not a thought for how it would sound to the Swans' supporters. His interview was up there with Jolly's in Melbourne on how the Swans can't compete with the real thing - Kerry/Collingwood/whatever. I finished watching both equally annoyed.........

I didn't mean 'You're kidding, right' as in 'surely he didn't say THAT'.

I meant 'You're kidding, right' that you found it offensive.

Hello, he went home to fulfill a dream and a promise he made to his family and late father that he would one day return and try and win an All-Ireland final. He chose the time he did because his body was shot and desperately in need of a long rest.

I'm not the least bit surprised that the whole experience meant more to him than anything, including playing in Sydney.

I most certainly don't find it offensive.

[sprite]

Just go - he is past his use by date. We have enough players to cover the HBF.

I thought it wrong to get him back in the first place...

[Mountain Man]

Right now he is in Ireland, and he is playing a sort of Gaelic football!

[goswannies]

I heard that he wants to go back to Ireland because they can spell his name correctly there. It's Tadhg not Tadgh.

[bennyfabulous]

Tadgh is a priemership player and can do as he pleases in my opinion. I think it unlikely he will go again. Just a media beat-up as always.

[Go Swannies]

I didn't mean 'You're kidding, right' as in 'surely he didn't say THAT'.

I meant 'You're kidding, right' that you found it offensive.

Hello, he went home to fulfill a dream and a promise he made to his family and late father that he would one day return and try and win an All-Ireland final. He chose the time he did because his body was shot and desperately in need of a long rest.

I'm not the least bit surprised that the whole experience meant more to him than anything, including playing in Sydney.

I most certainly don't find it offensive.

I was replying to what you meant. No I'm not kidding that I found it offensive. And I know the whole celtic legend of doing wha his da' always wanted from his boy. No problems with that - except he was so self-centred he screwed the Swans in the process "oh, is that the time? I've gotta go. Sorry about the draft but it might suit me better this way if I want to come back and make a few more dollars in a year or so."

But my main objection is what he said about the relative irrelevance of the Swans in his life, when he thought only the Irish were listening. The same Swans that took a chance and set him up for life in a way the home town amateur league never could. That put him on a par with Jolly as two of our recent greatest users.

[Vonsteinman]

I was replying to what you meant. No I'm not kidding that I found it offensive. And I know the whole celtic legend of doing wha his da' always wanted from his boy. No problems with that - except he was so self-centred he screwed the Swans in the process "oh, is that the time? I've gotta go. Sorry about the draft but it might suit me better this way if I want to come back and make a few more dollars in a year or so."

But my main objection is what he said about the relative irrelevance of the Swans in his life, when he thought only the Irish were listening. The same Swans that took a chance and set him up for life in a way the home town amateur league never could. That put him on a par with Jolly as two of our recent greatest users.

Gotta love the offence you take from this when it is pretty clear that he went home with the blessing of the club and was welcomed back with open arms.

In a period when the Swans have done so many things so well, this is right up there amongst the best of them.

To place Kennelly's name in the same sentence as Jolly and to refer to him as a 'user' is a bit strange...

[swansrock4eva]

I was replying to what you meant. No I'm not kidding that I found it offensive. And I know the whole celtic legend of doing wha his da' always wanted from his boy. No problems with that - except he was so self-centred he screwed the Swans in the process "oh, is that the time? I've gotta go. Sorry about the draft but it might suit me better this way if I want to come back and make a few more dollars in a year or so."

But my main objection is what he said about the relative irrelevance of the Swans in his life, when he thought only the Irish were listening. The same Swans that took a chance and set him up for life in a way the home town amateur league never could. That put him on a par with Jolly as two of our recent greatest users.

But you don't know what was asked and what context the answer was in relation to. Jolly was deadset right about the Collingwood thing - of COURSE they're huge, and mind-blowingly so in some ways. I know I never used to really care about them that much when I lived in Sydney - they were the Broady bogans, and there were a lot of them, but that was about it. I hated North and West Coast FAR more! Then I moved here to Melbourne and realised how huge that army actually is (and how vocal and obnoxious they are!). I'm no footy novice, but NOTHING prepared me for the sheer magnitude of that army down here, and I can imagine a million different questions that produced a response from Jolly along the lines of "Well, this is bloody huge! Sydney was so small compared to this!" etc - it could have been as simple as "Jeez, mate, would you look at the size of this crowd, but you never got that up north!" - I very much doubt it was set up so Jolly could go "Yeah Sydney is this total footy backwater, full of "cultured" wankers who sip chardy, call the umpires refs and turn up 10 minutes after "kick off", and I'm so glad I got my arse out of there! My only regret is I had to wait 4 years to do it..." Yeah, right. The media will grab anything and run with it, with no thought other than the headline. Heck, if you want a great example of a way to turn a comment from nothing into something, look at your own last line - "That put him on a par with Jolly as two of our recent greatest users." 14 words with no other context aside from being a reference to Kennelly, and we can turn that into "Swans Premiership Players Outed as Users in Long History of Drug Culture: Kennelly and Jolly labelled as two of the greatest users within the revered "Blood Brothers" culture the Swans have supposedly built around no individuals, no dickheads and no bad publicity." Voila - according to that, you just exposed our club as a drug-riddled junkie house. Well done! But you'll howl me down, saying I've quoted you out of context etc etc (you'd be dead right, but I've already got my story out there, so I don't really care!)

In regards to Tadhg leaving, yes, the timing of going back to Ireland wasn't great, but we also don't know what else went on behind the scenes. IIRC, he'd just been told he was getting pretty fragile physically, and risked that season being his last of any sport with the injuries he was carrying. If you were faced with the prospect of playing out a half-hearted year in Australia, knowing that any knock you took could mean you'd never play ANY sport again, as opposed to biting the bullet and getting home to do the one thing you promised to the man who meant everything to you... Jeez I don't know anyone who wouldn't think long and hard and face a real dilemma in that situation. And you can't tell me you haven't decided to change jobs somewhere along the line because a new opportunity gave you better money, better conditions, better work/life balance etc - if you've ever made that call based on looking after yourself/your family first, then you have no right to judge Tadhg's choice badly, because your own choice makes you as much user of the company you chose to leave as his choice to leave the Swans made him in your eyes.

As was pointed out earlier, we invest emotion into our club for no real material return, whereas players invest their bodies and their time (and their future health looking at the latest reports on rplacements, reconstrudtions and removals around joints), but ultimately it is JUST a job, and as in any other job or career these days, you go where the best deal that suits your needs is. Both those guys did that, and I don't think we really have any right to bear grudges.

[Go Swannies]

Eva, I did say that my main problem was not with his decision to return but his put down of the Swans once he'd done it - with the other issue being his late notification leaving the club in the lurch (that I heard at the time was not taken with as much good grace as they showed publicly).

[707]

Eva, happy with what you said.

Lets not get too excited about a story in the Hun, its probably just that - a story, and some are bagging Tadgh because of it. I say we wait until he either reappears at training and then apologise, or doesn't reappear and then say what we really think and feel!

But whatever he does, lets not forget the massive effort he made to leave his home, family, footy club and a game he loved to try his luck in Sydney and to be part of history 72 years in the making.