Swans may lose Kennelly again

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  • Bas
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4457

    #31
    Originally posted by swansrock4eva
    As was pointed out earlier, we invest emotion into our club for no real material return, whereas players invest their bodies and their time (and their future health looking at the latest reports on rplacements, reconstrudtions and removals around joints), but ultimately it is JUST a job, and as in any other job or career these days, you go where the best deal that suits your needs is. Both those guys did that, and I don't think we really have any right to bear grudges.
    Although you are correct, it does go against having a "bloods culture". The players do get rewarded for their job, they don't play for a packet of fags and a case of beer as they used to decades ago. If you want material return on emotional investment you can always bet on games. Players can't buy a premiership they have to win one and watching players crying on a losing team on Grand Final day does show that the players do invest emotionally into the outcome.

    Kenelley was given an opportunity to play back in Ireland to fulfill his dream and then given another opportunity to come back to the Swans and take a place on the list. I would expect that it would only be respectful of him to tell the Club before draft day that he was not returning and not drag this whole thing out to February like he did last time and leave the Club minus a player for the season.

    The story is being reported on Sunrise this morning.
    Last edited by Bas; 26 October 2010, 07:36 AM.
    In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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    • Bas
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4457

      #32
      Originally posted by 707
      But whatever he does, lets not forget the massive effort he made to leave his home, family, footy club and a game he loved to try his luck in Sydney and to be part of history 72 years in the making.
      And what did he do? Audition for Dancing with the Stars !
      In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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      • jono2707
        Goes up to 11
        • Oct 2007
        • 3326

        #33
        Good luck to him whatever he decides to do. It's his life and he's getting towards the end of his career. The pull of home must be pretty hard for him especially coming from such a close-knit family and community. He's put his body on the line for us for a number of years and has been a great player and personality for the team, and for all that he owes us zip.

        Plus I don't see where his 'put down' of the Swans is in that article......

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #34
          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          The interview he did on Irish TV last year saying how much more playing for Kerry meant to him than his time with the Swans was simply offensive.
          You must be easily offended.

          It is easy to see how playing for the team that his father played for would mean more to him than playing for the Swans. Especially given that his Father died whilst he was here in Australia. Plus the fact he always wanted to win an all-Ireland title.
          Does God believe in Atheists?

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          • top40
            Regular in the Side
            • May 2007
            • 933

            #35
            If this article is accurate, Tadgh doesn't seem happy either living in Ireland or Australia.

            I was not disappointed that he made the very personal decision in 2008 to go back to Ireland.

            I will however be disappointed if he chooses to go back in 2010 so soon after returning to Australia. And from a financially secure position, he would be mad to go back to Ireland so soon, where his body is still relatively young, and where in Australia he can effectively in the next couple of years build up a form of superannuation.
            Last edited by top40; 26 October 2010, 07:56 AM.

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            • swansrob
              Senior Player
              • May 2009
              • 1265

              #36
              Originally posted by top40
              If this article is accurate, Tadgh doesn't seem happy either living in Ireland or Australia.

              I was not disappointed that he made the very personal decision in 2008 to go back to Ireland.

              I will however be disappointed if he chooses to go back in 2010 so soon after returning to Australia. And from a financially secure position, he would be mad to go back to Ireland so soon, where his body is still relatively young, and where in Australia he can effectively in the next couple of years build up a form of superannuation.
              You might want to check those dates, mate...

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              • top40
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2007
                • 933

                #37
                Originally posted by swansrob
                You might want to check those dates, mate...
                Swansrob, you are quite right. Notwithstanding that the unofficial position that Kennelly was leaving Sydney for Ireland in the latter weeks of the year 2008, the official announcement was made on 7th January 2009.

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                • Jewels
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3258

                  #38
                  Originally posted by top40
                  If this article is accurate, Tadgh doesn't seem happy either living in Ireland or Australia.

                  I was not disappointed that he made the very personal decision in 2008 to go back to Ireland.

                  I will however be disappointed if he chooses to go back in 2010 so soon after returning to Australia. And from a financially secure position, he would be mad to go back to Ireland so soon, where his body is still relatively young, and where in Australia he can effectively in the next couple of years build up a form of superannuation.
                  I'm with you top. If the article is to be believed then enough is enough, one season back and the homeland calls again, give me a break!
                  Didn't he waffle on somewhere, either newspaper article or in that sad excuse for a book, that he had achieved his childhood dream and was now clear in his mind to give his all to the Swans for the remainder of his playing days, or words to that effect anyway.....

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #39
                    Good luck to him wherever he goes, so long as he lets the club know in good time.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • EMJ
                      Go Swans Always
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1076

                      #40
                      I thought Kennelly signed a two year contract with Swans. I hope he comes back and hope the story is a beat up but also if he is going to stay give us a chance in the draft and maybe we could of known earlier and maybe hung on to one of our players.
                      Personally I hope he comes back he brings a lot with him in his playing. Also thought he might hang around and do some coaching.
                      I think he gets caught up emotionally when in Ireland.
                      Please come back to the Swans Tadhg
                      Love those Swans

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                      • swansrule100
                        The quarterback
                        • May 2004
                        • 4538

                        #41
                        who cares he is past it anyway
                        Theres not much left to say

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                        • reigning premier
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 4335

                          #42
                          Mattner, Shaw, Malceski, Everitt, Grundy, Bolton, LRT.

                          Where's the problem?

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                          • Mr Magoo
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2008
                            • 1255

                            #43
                            Gotta say when I heard the headline this morning of "swans player threatens to walk out on club" , i was more concerned that it was going to be someone like Maleceski or even lewis johnstone or dan currie. That to me would have suggested an internal problem but Tadgh to me isnt that important a cog going forward and has differnet motivations. We all feel comfortable going home to where we grew up and it would play on your mind. He is definiterly in the best 22 but just not that big a loss in my eyes. Good luck to him in whatever he chooses but he should do the right thing and do it before the draft if that is his choice.

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                            • caj23
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2462

                              #44
                              Originally posted by reigning premier
                              Mattner Is more Leo Barry than Tadhg with his run
                              Shaw Has the run but simply doesn't have the footskills
                              Malceski Has the footskills but doesn't have the pace
                              Everitt Not sure what he can do as I didn't watch Williamstown this year
                              Grundy Will probably play on key forwards so won't be able to provide that run
                              Bolton Has never played the attacking hbf role and is unlikely to in the twilight of his career
                              LRT See Grundy

                              Where's the problem?
                              I seriously doubt that he will return to Ireland permanently over summer, but anyone who doesn't think it will pose a problem for us is kidding themselves. Just watch a few tapes of the 2009 season and you will see how we struggled with the transition out of half back into the forward 50.

                              If he does go and we want a like for like replacement, Gary Rohan is the man IMO. Hasn't got the consistency in the 50 metre bullets that Tadgh has, but is similar in his style with his pace and ability to take on the opposition

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                              • Go Swannies
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 5697

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Will Sangster
                                I seriously doubt that he will return to Ireland permanently over summer, but anyone who doesn't think it will pose a problem for us is kidding themselves. Just watch a few tapes of the 2009 season and you will see how we struggled with the transition out of half back into the forward 50.

                                If he does go and we want a like for like replacement, Gary Rohan is the man IMO. Hasn't got the consistency in the 50 metre bullets that Tadgh has, but is similar in his style with his pace and ability to take on the opposition
                                WS - I think the problems in 2009 were more fundamental than missing Tadhg. Kids not ready to step up and older players not ready to step down, plus Baz in rehab, whatever. And didn't Shaw achieve more metres gained than any other player in the comp? (I think I read that somewhere - and his 2nd in the B&F suggests the coaches thought he did a better job than "Has the run but simply doesn't have the footskills ".

                                But would like to see Rohan find a spot and make it his.

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