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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #16
    Originally posted by laughingnome
    I'm not sure what your ranking system is but there is no way Eagles/Dockers isn't a blockbuster.
    In melbourne? i was assuming everything was from a Vic point of view.
    Would the ranking system change from state to state? I wouldn't have thought so.
    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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    • Doctor
      Bay 29
      • Sep 2003
      • 2757

      #17
      Before we had Pay-TV, doe you recall how many games were on FTA TV and how many of them were screened live? Pay-TV has changed the way sport is broadcast in this country and has forced the lazy FTA networks to lift their game. I appreciate that there are some people who don't have Fox because they can't afford it but many others choose to allocate their financial priorities elsewhere. If you want something badly enough, you find a way to make it happen. I love live sport, so I pay for Foxtel. It's that simple. The ones I feel for are the people who want to get connected but can't because of geographical or strata reasons.

      The Pay TV system we have here is a long way from perfect - a succession of poor govt decisions saw to that - but it's far better than what we had before. If you think you can trust the FTA networks to handle rights on their own then you're kidding yourself. The whole idea of an anti-siphoning list is ridiculous for the most part. Look at what Channel Nein does with the cricket. They cut to the news and viewers miss out on seeing some of it without any alternative. There should definitely be a "use it or lose it" policy though. When you bid for the rights to any sport, the contract should stipulate how the event should be screened. If, for example, Nein can't commit to screening every ball of the cricket then they should be scrubbed from contention.
      Today's a draft of your epitaph

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        #18
        Originally posted by Doctor
        ... There should definitely be a "use it or lose it" policy though. When you bid for the rights to any sport, the contract should stipulate how the event should be screened. If, for example, Nein can't commit to screening every ball of the cricket then they should be scrubbed from contention.
        Hear, hear. That's the heart of the matter. Nothing so infuriating as those who have it and don't use it.
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • ScottH
          It's Goodes to cheer!!
          • Sep 2003
          • 23665

          #19
          Originally posted by Doctor
          Before we had Pay-TV, doe you recall how many games were on FTA TV and how many of them were screened live? Pay-TV has changed the way sport is broadcast in this country and has forced the lazy FTA networks to lift their game. I appreciate that there are some people who don't have Fox because they can't afford it but many others choose to allocate their financial priorities elsewhere. If you want something badly enough, you find a way to make it happen. I love live sport, so I pay for Foxtel. It's that simple. The ones I feel for are the people who want to get connected but can't because of geographical or strata reasons.

          The Pay TV system we have here is a long way from perfect - a succession of poor govt decisions saw to that - but it's far better than what we had before. If you think you can trust the FTA networks to handle rights on their own then you're kidding yourself. The whole idea of an anti-siphoning list is ridiculous for the most part. Look at what Channel Nein does with the cricket. They cut to the news and viewers miss out on seeing some of it without any alternative. There should definitely be a "use it or lose it" policy though. When you bid for the rights to any sport, the contract should stipulate how the event should be screened. If, for example, Nein can't commit to screening every ball of the cricket then they should be scrubbed from contention.
          We, here in Melbourne, used to see up to 5 games a weekend.
          One Friday (Delayed), Sat Arvo(delayed if in Melb), Sat night(delayed if in Melb), The Early game on Sund (usually the swans LIVE ) and then a delay of another Sunday game.

          No, it hasn't improved things for us.

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          • reigning premier
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2006
            • 4335

            #20
            It's the off season......

            Yet another excuse for a bunch of whingers to do what they do best, whine.

            Get a life or Foxtel.

            Problem solved.

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              #21
              Whine and the whole world joins in.

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              • Frog
                Retired from RWO
                • Aug 2005
                • 1898

                #22
                Originally posted by ScottH
                Whine and the whole world joins in.
                Red or White?

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Frog
                  Red or White?
                  I prefer red, but am not afraid to try a nice white.

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #24
                    Further thoughts from Greg Baum:
                    Fans can't be fans if they can't see the game
                    I think he's right about the value of exposure. And he exposes Demetriou's duplicity - or is that plain stupidity?
                    In fact I think about the only thing i disagree with is the execrable "The proof is in the pudding". It's not in the bloody pudding; the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Disgraceful.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Damien
                      Living in 2005
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 3713

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dimelb
                      Further thoughts from Greg Baum:
                      Fans can't be fans if they can't see the game
                      I think he's right about the value of exposure. And he exposes Demetriou's duplicity - or is that plain stupidity?
                      In fact I think about the only thing i disagree with is the execrable "The proof is in the pudding". It's not in the bloody pudding; the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Disgraceful.
                      I get the A-league argument, John O'Neil only saw $ signs, when he always should have at least provided SBS with highlights or game of the week, however I don't get his AFL argument. The only change now is that the AFL can deal directly with Foxtel for four games instead of the deals 9, 10 and 7 have all done over the past 10 years to pass on 4 games themselves. Free to Air don't want to show or produce 8 games a week but buy 8 games under the old laws just to on sell 4 of them, it makes no sense what so ever. The fact that 4 games are protected under the deal is fantastic IMO, and the fact Foxtel can deal directly for games they were going to get anway is fantastic also.

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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        #26
                        Originally posted by reigning premier
                        It's the off season......

                        Yet another excuse for a bunch of whingers to do what they do best, whine.

                        Get a life or Foxtel.

                        Problem solved.
                        Let me see if I can reply without receiving a warning

                        It seems comments made specifically directed towards a pers
                        on or people cannot be answered in the same way so I shall try again.

                        I would have thought that in your avaerage of 20 posts per week on an internet sports forum, you would have seen enough comments about what we fan in Melbourne are missing out on to not be so rude as to belittle any comments about it.

                        I would have thought that in your average of over 1000 posts per year in an internet sports forum, that you would have developed more of a sense of respect for otehr Swans fans.

                        I hope you don't try and interpret my references to your post count as being brought on by your 'get a life' comment.

                        I think one day we will be BFFL's
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • Doctor
                          Bay 29
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2757

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dimelb
                          Hear, hear. That's the heart of the matter. Nothing so infuriating as those who have it and don't use it.
                          I wrote my post before the First Test started too. Sure enough, Nein cut to the news at 6 and we missed out on some of the play. It remains to be seen if the changes to the "main channel v extra channels" rules mean they'll switch it to GEM or somewhere else when the news is due. Either way they're still a joke.
                          Today's a draft of your epitaph

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