Should Troy Luff medal stay?

[Bas]

No.
TLM stays.

Bas, you know that Luffy is still playing don't you???

I figure if Kirky is still playing 10 years after he's retired, then we can change the name then.

See you in 2020.

So Annie remind me of the basis of the award.

I've seem him play on Foxtel and it's great that he is still participating but his playing days are long gone.

Troy Luff is a shadow of Brett Kirk in terms of Swans history. I don't mean to be derogative to Luffy but Brett Kirk was what "bloods" was meant to be all about.

So we won't meet until 2020? I hate it when women keep me waiting>>>> Thank God, Santa is a male!!!

[swansrock4eva]

IIRC when the TLM was started, it was named after Luffy because he embodied a lot of the spirit that long-suffering fans believed in - keep trying no matter what, don't take no for an answer, you may not be the most skilled bloke on the field, but the guts are always there. etc etc. It was deliberately named after a player who wasn't going to adorn the record books or who would be remembered as a legend of the game in the wider sense, but rather someone who meant something more to us long-suffering fans, and you have to admit, most people have had a pretty big soft spot for Luffy! While you could probably argue that Kirky also embodies those sorts of spiritual ideals, I think given where our club has come from, and that Luffy was part of that rise from near-oblivion in the early-90s, it is fitting that he remains recognised, not necessarily for being a "great" of the club in terms of achievements, but for being a great reminder of our struggling roots, and for being part of the building blocks that gave us the club we have today.

[sprite]

Kirk - will probably have an official gong named after him at some stage - but here at RWO - Luffy will live forever because as SR4E says "because he embodied a lot of the spirit that long-suffering fans believed in - keep trying no matter what, don't take no for an answer, you may not be the most skilled bloke on the field, but the guts are always there. etc etc. It was deliberately named after a player who wasn't going to adorn the record books or who would be remembered as a legend of the game in the wider sense, but rather someone who meant something more to us long-suffering fans, and you have to admit, most people have had a pretty big soft spot for Luffy!"

KEEP THE TLM

[RogueSwan]

IIRC when the TLM was started, it was named after Luffy because he embodied a lot of the spirit that long-suffering fans believed in - keep trying no matter what, don't take no for an answer, you may not be the most skilled bloke on the field, but the guts are always there. etc etc. It was deliberately named after a player who wasn't going to adorn the record books or who would be remembered as a legend of the game in the wider sense, but rather someone who meant something more to us long-suffering fans, and you have to admit, most people have had a pretty big soft spot for Luffy! ...

Wonderfully put SR4E.
If, and it is a really big IF, you wanted to change it surely it would have to be the Stuey Maxfield Medal before the BKM.

[ScottH]

Luffy was not the greatest player, but he played during the toughest times at Sydney. He was thrown into the tough job as a fill in Ruckman, and did admirably against his larger opponents.

He was not the heart and soul of the club during his time, as Kirk was, but he was certainly a cult figure, the boy with the blonde Mullet.
Pulling in screamers, kicking goals, ruck duties, he was thrown around the ground a lot.

[Triple B]

I'm not sure where all these romantic stories are coming from re: the evolution of the TLM.

Luffy used to post on RWO on a semi-regular basis, so all the regs fell in love with him.

That's the reason, pure and simple. Not saying all the romantic stories of Luffy the player are not accurate, but they are NOT the reason the TLM was so named.

[Big Al]

Luffy was not the greatest player, but he played during the toughest times at Sydney. He was thrown into the tough job as a fill in Ruckman, and did admirably against his larger opponents.

He was not the heart and soul of the club during his time, as Kirk was, but he was certainly a cult figure, the boy with the blonde Mullet.
Pulling in screamers, kicking goals, ruck duties, he was thrown around the ground a lot.

Also add that he became a fans favorite because he seem to cop Rocket's wrath more than any other player at the time.

[goswannie14]

I'm not sure where all these romantic stories are coming from re: the evolution of the TLM.

Luffy used to post on RWO on a semi-regular basis, so all the regs fell in love with him.

That's the reason, pure and simple. Not saying all the romantic stories of Luffy the player are not accurate, but they are NOT the reason the TLM was so named.

But it would appear that they are some of the reasons that people want it retained.

[CureTheSane]

I'm not sure where all these romantic stories are coming from re: the evolution of the TLM.

Luffy used to post on RWO on a semi-regular basis, so all the regs fell in love with him.

That's the reason, pure and simple. Not saying all the romantic stories of Luffy the player are not accurate, but they are NOT the reason the TLM was so named.

Yep.

At the time I was very opposed to the concept of teh Trpy Luff medal.
Naming an award for excellence after a mediocre player seemed stupid.
Don't kow if those threads are still lurking deep down in teh recesses of RWO or not....

Anyway, it was decided taht the medal should be named that and it has been since.
Right or wrong in its inception, it is what it is and should stay what it is

[Dalai Lama]

All you need is Luff, Luff - Luff is all you need....

[RogueSwan]

All you need is Luff, Luff - Luff is all you need....

Can't get enough of that wonderful Luff.

[Bas]

Anyway, it was decided taht the medal should be named that and it has been since.
Right or wrong in its inception, it is what it is and should stay what it is

Well, I can't argue with that and other comments previous.

Didn't he and a few others take Barassi to a gay night spot for a drink without Ron knowing about it?

Luff is all you need but I have to quote myself (circa 1999) - Luffy the Vampire slayer.

[reigning premier]

Luffy was (and still is), a legend of the Swans. He was a glimmer of hope in a decade of depression. Never the most gifted footballer, but you know when he went out to play, he played to win and he gave it all for his team and team mates. Arguabley, he IS the beginning of the "Bloods" culture.

[CureTheSane]

I'm afraid i'd have to argue with that

[Bas]

I'm afraid i'd have to argue with that

I would have to agree with you. I would have thought he was the start of the "bench" culture under Eade.