Should Troy Luff medal stay?

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  • Bas
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4457

    #16
    Originally posted by AnnieH
    No.
    TLM stays.

    Bas, you know that Luffy is still playing don't you???

    I figure if Kirky is still playing 10 years after he's retired, then we can change the name then.

    See you in 2020.
    So Annie remind me of the basis of the award.

    I've seem him play on Foxtel and it's great that he is still participating but his playing days are long gone.

    Troy Luff is a shadow of Brett Kirk in terms of Swans history. I don't mean to be derogative to Luffy but Brett Kirk was what "bloods" was meant to be all about.

    So we won't meet until 2020? I hate it when women keep me waiting>>>> Thank God, Santa is a male!!!
    In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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    • swansrock4eva
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 1352

      #17
      IIRC when the TLM was started, it was named after Luffy because he embodied a lot of the spirit that long-suffering fans believed in - keep trying no matter what, don't take no for an answer, you may not be the most skilled bloke on the field, but the guts are always there. etc etc. It was deliberately named after a player who wasn't going to adorn the record books or who would be remembered as a legend of the game in the wider sense, but rather someone who meant something more to us long-suffering fans, and you have to admit, most people have had a pretty big soft spot for Luffy! While you could probably argue that Kirky also embodies those sorts of spiritual ideals, I think given where our club has come from, and that Luffy was part of that rise from near-oblivion in the early-90s, it is fitting that he remains recognised, not necessarily for being a "great" of the club in terms of achievements, but for being a great reminder of our struggling roots, and for being part of the building blocks that gave us the club we have today.

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      • sprite
        Regular in the Side
        • Jan 2003
        • 813

        #18
        Kirk - will probably have an official gong named after him at some stage - but here at RWO - Luffy will live forever because as SR4E says "because he embodied a lot of the spirit that long-suffering fans believed in - keep trying no matter what, don't take no for an answer, you may not be the most skilled bloke on the field, but the guts are always there. etc etc. It was deliberately named after a player who wasn't going to adorn the record books or who would be remembered as a legend of the game in the wider sense, but rather someone who meant something more to us long-suffering fans, and you have to admit, most people have had a pretty big soft spot for Luffy!"

        KEEP THE TLM
        sprite

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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #19
          Originally posted by swansrock4eva
          IIRC when the TLM was started, it was named after Luffy because he embodied a lot of the spirit that long-suffering fans believed in - keep trying no matter what, don't take no for an answer, you may not be the most skilled bloke on the field, but the guts are always there. etc etc. It was deliberately named after a player who wasn't going to adorn the record books or who would be remembered as a legend of the game in the wider sense, but rather someone who meant something more to us long-suffering fans, and you have to admit, most people have had a pretty big soft spot for Luffy! ...
          Wonderfully put SR4E.
          If, and it is a really big IF, you wanted to change it surely it would have to be the Stuey Maxfield Medal before the BKM.
          Last edited by RogueSwan; 26 December 2010, 10:30 AM.
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #20
            Luffy was not the greatest player, but he played during the toughest times at Sydney. He was thrown into the tough job as a fill in Ruckman, and did admirably against his larger opponents.

            He was not the heart and soul of the club during his time, as Kirk was, but he was certainly a cult figure, the boy with the blonde Mullet.
            Pulling in screamers, kicking goals, ruck duties, he was thrown around the ground a lot.

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            • Triple B
              Formerly 'BBB'
              • Feb 2003
              • 6999

              #21
              I'm not sure where all these romantic stories are coming from re: the evolution of the TLM.

              Luffy used to post on RWO on a semi-regular basis, so all the regs fell in love with him.

              That's the reason, pure and simple. Not saying all the romantic stories of Luffy the player are not accurate, but they are NOT the reason the TLM was so named.
              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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              • Big Al
                Veterans List
                • Feb 2005
                • 7007

                #22
                Originally posted by ScottH
                Luffy was not the greatest player, but he played during the toughest times at Sydney. He was thrown into the tough job as a fill in Ruckman, and did admirably against his larger opponents.

                He was not the heart and soul of the club during his time, as Kirk was, but he was certainly a cult figure, the boy with the blonde Mullet.
                Pulling in screamers, kicking goals, ruck duties, he was thrown around the ground a lot.
                Also add that he became a fans favorite because he seem to cop Rocket's wrath more than any other player at the time.
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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Triple B
                  I'm not sure where all these romantic stories are coming from re: the evolution of the TLM.

                  Luffy used to post on RWO on a semi-regular basis, so all the regs fell in love with him.

                  That's the reason, pure and simple. Not saying all the romantic stories of Luffy the player are not accurate, but they are NOT the reason the TLM was so named.
                  But it would appear that they are some of the reasons that people want it retained.
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Triple B
                    I'm not sure where all these romantic stories are coming from re: the evolution of the TLM.

                    Luffy used to post on RWO on a semi-regular basis, so all the regs fell in love with him.

                    That's the reason, pure and simple. Not saying all the romantic stories of Luffy the player are not accurate, but they are NOT the reason the TLM was so named.
                    Yep.

                    At the time I was very opposed to the concept of teh Trpy Luff medal.
                    Naming an award for excellence after a mediocre player seemed stupid.
                    Don't kow if those threads are still lurking deep down in teh recesses of RWO or not....

                    Anyway, it was decided taht the medal should be named that and it has been since.
                    Right or wrong in its inception, it is what it is and should stay what it is
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • Dalai Lama
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 632

                      #25
                      All you need is Luff, Luff - Luff is all you need....
                      Last edited by Dalai Lama; 27 December 2010, 07:46 AM.

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                      • RogueSwan
                        McVeigh for Brownlow
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 4602

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dalai Lama
                        All you need is Luff, Luff - Luff is all you need....
                        Can't get enough of that wonderful Luff.
                        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                        • Bas
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4457

                          #27
                          Originally posted by CureTheSane
                          Anyway, it was decided taht the medal should be named that and it has been since.
                          Right or wrong in its inception, it is what it is and should stay what it is
                          Well, I can't argue with that and other comments previous.

                          Didn't he and a few others take Barassi to a gay night spot for a drink without Ron knowing about it?

                          Luff is all you need but I have to quote myself (circa 1999) - Luffy the Vampire slayer.
                          In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                          • reigning premier
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4335

                            #28
                            Luffy was (and still is), a legend of the Swans. He was a glimmer of hope in a decade of depression. Never the most gifted footballer, but you know when he went out to play, he played to win and he gave it all for his team and team mates. Arguabley, he IS the beginning of the "Bloods" culture.

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              #29
                              I'm afraid i'd have to argue with that
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • Bas
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4457

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                                I'm afraid i'd have to argue with that
                                I would have to agree with you. I would have thought he was the start of the "bench" culture under Eade.
                                In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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