Changes for round 6: Teams named

[ernie koala]

With Horse suggesting both Moore and Kennelly will be back in the seniors next round (provided they get through training). Who misses out?
One things for sure, it won't be Bevo.
Candidates would include.. Kennelly in for either:
Everitt ( has given 1 good quarter in 4 rounds...and that was as a forward)
Johnson ( looks a solid prospect but very much in development phase)

Moore in for: not sure who? he's slow, carlton are quick.

Others pushing for selection..Pyke, Seaby and TDL.
I think it will take another loss or 2 before these guys get a run.

McVeigh won't be dropped but should be looked at closely, his form is poor.

Rohan (with 2 rounds as a sub and a bye) needs game time, so perhaps he swaps with someone like Jetta

[aardvark]

How about Pyke in for White, Kennelly for Everitt, Moore for Bevan and LRT for Johnson.

[Hartijon]

How about Pyke in for White, Kennelly for Everitt, Moore for Bevan and LRT for Johnson.

Ah,the luxury of good reserves.Any number of combination changes possible.Here are but a few

LJ to debut , Reid to have a rest and reflect just for a couple of weeks

Pyke in White out, straight swap,Mike has earned this and so has Jesse

Parker to debut Jetta to have a rest in reserves and refect on 100% efforts all the time in seniors

LRT in, Johnson out

Tiger in, Everitt out

Moore in ?? ROK out??? ouch! hate this one! ROK is a legend but how long can we carry hom and tolerate his turnovers to the opposition.

Then there are TDL and Rohan to fit in somewhere.TDL for Bevan? Harsh but he stuffs up less and kicks as many if not more goals.

Rohan for Bird?

Literally an embarassment of Riches. Who would want to be a selector

[Plugger46]

I definitely wouldn't be dropping Jesse. Atrocious conditions for a key forward and pinch hitting ruckman. Played alright against Essendon and West Coast - don't think he gets anything out of kicking a bag in the reserves anymore.

As for McVeigh, O'Keefe etc getting dropped?? Not a chance. One is a captain, the other's had a couple of poor games. We're not good enough to leave players of their quality of the team.

[aardvark]

I definitely wouldn't be dropping Jesse. Atrocious conditions for a key forward and pinch hitting ruckman. don't think he gets anything out of kicking a bag in the reserves anymore..

Conditions didn't bother Podsiadly. Key forwards take marks, Jesse doesn't. With White every week is a different excuse. Play him for the rest of the year in the ressies at full back and he may turn into something decent for 2012. Otherwise GWS here we come.

[Plugger46]

Conditions didn't bother Podsiadly. Key forwards take marks, Jesse doesn't. With White every week is a different excuse. Play him for the rest of the year in the ressies at full back and he may turn into something decent for 2012. Otherwise GWS here we come.

Geelong had forwards in their half of the ground and their midfield used it well. We didn't.

It's not a different excuse every week at all. If he's still producing what he is now in 2 years then we have a problem but Saturday night aside, I think he's been playing his role OK.

[GongSwan]

I've said this b4 but one of the current difficulties in our backline is the lack of talls and hard bodies, on that basis I'd move white down back to play on a tall, probably at everitt's expense. Jesse wants to be a forward let him play on some good ones and see how they do it. Put Seaby in the foward line, he played on a wing a fair bit for the weagles and should work ok out of the goal square, play goodes at CHF or midfield, if he's a forward, then put reid back in the resies for a while. TDL needs another year to put on a bit more size, moore would add some experience, but I would play kennnely now, and they will, to give us more run off half back. wet games I wouldn't play Jetta, he's there for speed, sogiven different circumstances, you could swap him and moore, but overall I think we have 11 of our best 22 with less than 50 games and it may take another year or 2 for them to really gel, of course by then we will be looking for hard bodies to replace Jude, and maybe even Goodes, so getting games into the young guysa is very important or we will slide. We'll lose a few games to more experienced sides, so what, Collingwood might go thru the year undefeated this year and barring massive injuries, who's going to beat them come finals time

[andyn]

I had a reality check in the bathrooms under the ladies stand at three quarter time on Sat night ... ha ha ... that sounds really bad! Anyway, I just thought about our team vs the Cats. I looked at the players they still have. then I thought about our team full of first or second year players, or players recycled from other teams who didn't give them a game. It would have been a super human effort for us to run over the cats on Saturday night. Most clubs wouldn't have done it. It's to the Swans credit that we all believe that they are capable and feel annoyed that they didn't! Yes, without stupid mistakes we would have been in the game and mistakes are inexcusable, but we don't need to go nuts dropping players especially considering we've had a reasonable start to the year.

[Hartijon]

[QUOTE=Plugger46;525150]. Played alright against Essendon and West Coast

With Jesse I agree but the word "alright" says it all.When he is good he is alright. He does not reach what potential his body size and height should give him.Reid a younger player has excited much more. Reid might have got us over the line against Geelong if he had better execution skills in the wet. Jesse was never going to explode yet we argue that Geelong's success was that they had big bodies over the ball . I really think its time to give Mike a go. He was BOG in the reserves,kicked 4 goals and can actually ruck very well. Although playing reserves will not do much for Jesse ,he needs to inject something special into his game,maybe as so many are suggesting,reinvent himself as a defender.It worked ok for Reg.

[BSA5]

Ah,the luxury of good reserves.Any number of combination changes possible.Here are but a few

LJ to debut , Reid to have a rest and reflect just for a couple of weeks

Pyke in White out, straight swap,Mike has earned this and so has Jesse

Parker to debut Jetta to have a rest in reserves and refect on 100% efforts all the time in seniors

LRT in, Johnson out

Tiger in, Everitt out

Moore in ?? ROK out??? ouch! hate this one! ROK is a legend but how long can we carry hom and tolerate his turnovers to the opposition.

Then there are TDL and Rohan to fit in somewhere.TDL for Bevan? Harsh but he stuffs up less and kicks as many if not more goals.

Rohan for Bird?

Literally an embarassment of Riches. Who would want to be a selector

LJ has been playing in defence, so a swap with Reid wouldn't happen.

ROK's disposal has been up and down, but he gives us much needed drive out of the middle, and can actually take a mark when up forward. No way does he go.

TDL for Bevan could work, but it's not like-for-like. I'd like to see both in the forwardline if possible.

Rohan for Bird? You crazy? Bird is a better player than Rohan, and Rohan is more suited to the sub position, being an impact player.

[ernie koala]

Bird is a better player than Rohan, and Rohan is more suited to the sub position, being an impact player.

I agree with you Re: Bird. But I think the role of sub is becoming more critical, and therefore puts more pressure on the sub (particually if it's a close game) to be the difference.
That role needs to be shared around with more experienced players. You want the subs to use their legs and freshness, but you also want them to play smart and get to the critical contests, not every contest.
Also, I think to play any young player, as sub, week in week out, won't help their overall development, IMO.

I'm also in the camp that thinks White should be tried as a defender. He appears to have all the tools physically. He could then be used to pinch hit up forward now and again. ie To cover an injury or create a mismatch. Plenty of other defenders have done this successfully...Lake for example.

[aardvark]

Rohan will have more impact as a player than Jetta ,White, LJ, AJ, and about 3/4 of the current team as soon as he develops the fitness to run out a game. That's not going to happen if he plays a quarter a week. We persist with players that are never going to be any good eg White and don't put miles into the players that really need it.

[stellation]

aardvark, I'm starting to get the feeling you don't really like Jesse.

[blinddog]

How about TDL for Reid (give Reid a break - maybe swap between them depending on conditions), Kennelly for Everitt, Moore as sub and Rohan for Jetta

[aardvark]

aardvark, I'm starting to get the feeling you don't really like Jesse.

What gave you that impression.
I was a huge fan when he first came on the scene but he just hasn't improved. He's really a half forward flanker in the wrong body. It frustrates me that the selectors persist in trying to make a KP Forward or Ruckman out of him when its obvious it will never happen. Especially when there are other players like Pykey or Seaby that would do a better job in his role IMO.

Promise I won't mention him again for at least a week.