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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
    • 15968

    Originally posted by lwjoyner
    disappointed that NG in and not LP. Parker was picked in the draft and he has been emergenvy for a couple of games. Gordon is a Rookie and who is on the LONG TERM INJURY LIST for him. Parker has been playing well in the 2's and while Nathan has also played well I believe that a draftee is better placed to play than a rookie.
    Also diappointed that LJ has not been included.
    Once they are at the club I would hope that how they got to the club whether as a first round draft pick or a rookie list pick plays no bearing on their selection chances. We have had great success in promoting players off the rookie list Kirk, Grundy, Jack, Kennelly, Pyke, Smith, Bevan and guys like Mumford, McGlynn and Jolly were rookie listed players at oher clubs
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    • giant
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      • Mar 2005
      • 4731

      Originally posted by ugg
      Wrong Hill. It's Josh not Tom
      Thank goodness for that, I was trying to work out how Josh and Minson were the same size!

      Surely with no Baz and no Lake this is our game for the taking. Don't be mislead by the media, I thought the Dogs were ordinary for all but about 20 mins last week vs the Pies. If we're dinkum about 2011 this must be the sort of game we win.

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      • Hartijon
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2008
        • 1536

        Originally posted by ernie koala
        Now that's ironic.
        Sure is! Thats what I thought! Its a bit like Eddie the Eagle coaching Olympic ski jumpers.

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        • Big Al
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          • Feb 2005
          • 7007

          Originally posted by Hartijon
          Sure is! Thats what I thought! Its a bit like Eddie the Eagle coaching Olympic ski jumpers.
          Might be ironic but based on the Reserves games i've seen Henry is spot on It's a part of TDL's game that has to improve and since he's a class player, I'm sure it will.
          ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

          Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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          • liz
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            • Jan 2003
            • 16761

            Originally posted by alison.z
            While it would be great to see Parker - Gordon is ahead of him in terms of Swans development. Gordon has been at the club for 4 years, obviously has great run (top 2 in almost every trial pre season) and has by all accounts improved his consistency and disposal this year. One presumes Craig Bolton's retirement opened the door for his elevation so it's likely he'll stay on the senior list all year.

            I'm excited to see Parker in the future and i'm sure he'll get a game soon but i don't see any reason why he's above Gordon - and the Swans coaches obviously think the same thing. They've shown that they will reward youngsters with games in the seniors this year so have a little faith that when Parker and Johnston are ready - they'll be included.
            Eggsactly.

            While I didn't necessarily see Gordon's selection coming (prior to coaches' comments earlier this week) it does make sense. I imagine he'll be given a run-wtih role on an outsidish player, and if there is one thing Gordon can do, it is run all day. He's not as quick as Jack but he's certainly quick enough to stick with most players in the league. Whether he is smart enough we'll find out on Saturday.

            I wonder if they'll run him with Griffen for part of the game. That would be quite a big ask for a player on debut but, physically at least, Gordon is probably equipped to do the task.

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            • liz
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              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16761

              Originally posted by Big Al
              Might be ironic but it doesn't make Henry wrong. It's a part of TDL's game that has to improve and since he's a class player, I'm sure it will.
              Not to mention

              a) the expectations of a 180cm forward and a 196cm forward in terms of forward pressure are - and always have been - very different.
              b) the expectations of all players to provide pressure in the forward 50 have increased significantly in the short time since Playfair retired.

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              • Bas
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                • Jan 2003
                • 4457

                Originally posted by giant
                Surely with no Baz and no Lake this is our game for the taking. Don't be mislead by the media, I thought the Dogs were ordinary for all but about 20 mins last week vs the Pies. If we're dinkum about 2011 this must be the sort of game we win.
                Of for us to lose the game in the most unglorius way.

                I have everything crossed that the Swans can get up and win. Thankfully it will be a dry track.
                In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                • Bas
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4457

                  Originally posted by Scottee
                  Who will be Sub?
                  I was going to say Gordon before I looked at the team selection. I would say Jetta following in the Rohan tradition. They'll set up a Pagin's paddock structure in the 4th quarter and let Lewis have a run.
                  In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6474

                    Im pumped for Nipper................we are not going to win the comp in 2011

                    Therefore our strategy of transitioning our youth in 2011 is king.

                    Imagine a few of the following AJ, Jetta, Rohan, Reid, Sumner, Nipper, Parker, Lamb, LJ, TDL etc in 2012 with 10 to 15 senior games experience. Their intensity at training, offseason 2011/12 and the new belief in them self will be thru the roof. They will become players we can count on to at least play a role in the 22 minimum but better then that some will rise up and be Senior players full stop
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      PS - do you think that Shaw upfront is a sign of our Coaching dept being adaptable..........ie Betts at 173cm and 78kg played at FF for a qtr last week and this was a masterstroke of coaching that was a turning point........

                      Shaw on the lead in the forward line last yr for some games was bloody hard to mark up on...............maybe even Jetta might end up at FF this week if things are not going right as they were not for the Blues until Eddie moved to FF

                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Dosser
                        Just wild about Harry
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1833

                        Originally posted by stellation
                        I am so amazingly excited about this, Nipper played his junior footy at the same club I did (albeit just one or two years after me!)- I think this is the first AFL game for someone from the club since Dion Myles? Great, great stuff.
                        Wow - someone else on here! I was in the first ever Baulko team that split off from Pennant Hills (U/13s). I was also really chuffed to see another Baulko boy making the grade.

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                        • chalbilto
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1139

                          Originally posted by Bas
                          Of for us to lose the game in the most unglorius way.

                          I have everything crossed that the Swans can get up and win. Thankfully it will be a dry track.
                          Amen. I am of the opinion that the boys do not play well on wet tracks.

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                          • laughingnome
                            Amateur Statsman
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 1624

                            Originally posted by chalbilto
                            I am of the opinion that the boys do not play well on wet tracks.
                            In the past I've put this down to a faulty/selective memory, but I'm clearly not the only fan who's noticed this. I know we've won on wet tracks, but compared to other sides are we really that poor in the wet? I'm struggling to think of one occassion when we've really outshon another team in wet conditions.
                            10100111001 ;-)

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                            • Dosser
                              Just wild about Harry
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1833

                              Originally posted by laughingnome
                              In the past I've put this down to a faulty/selective memory, but I'm clearly not the only fan who's noticed this. I know we've won on wet tracks, but compared to other sides are we really that poor in the wet? I'm struggling to think of one occassion when we've really outshon another team in wet conditions.
                              We were beaiting Carlton in the first half last week when it was wet but then we kept our gumboots on when it dried up in the second half.

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                              • liz
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                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16761

                                Originally posted by Dosser
                                We were beaiting Carlton in the first half last week when it was wet but then we kept our gumboots on when it dried up in the second half.
                                Was going to say the same thing. Even against Geelong the week before we matched them when it was pissing down and then fell away when it dried up.

                                I think we used to be a dreadful wet weather team, with only games against Freo and West Coast probable wins in those conditions. (Both clubs have also been poor wet weather teams over the past decade or so.) I think we have gotten a little better in the last couple of seasons, to the point where we are just a poor wet weather team.

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