Changes for Rnd 7 v Bulldogs (Nipper Gordon to debut!)

[laughingnome]

Fair enough then.

[ernie koala]

Not to mention

a) the expectations of a 180cm forward and a 196cm forward in terms of forward pressure are - and always have been - very different.
b) the expectations of all players to provide pressure in the forward 50 have increased significantly in the short time since Playfair retired.

And yet it's still ironic...the guy hardly laid an effective tackle in his whole career.

[Big Al]

And yet it's still ironic...the guy hardly laid an effective tackle in his whole career.

So what... Does that make what Henry said wrong or are these posts just sledging Playfair for the fun of it.

[ernie koala]

So what... Does that make what Henry said wrong or are these posts just sledging Playfair for the fun of it.

No, "these posts" are stating, IMO, the fact that Playfair talking about pressure is ironic.

[Big Al]

No, "these posts" are stating, IMO, the fact that Playfair talking about pressure is ironic.

Just a sledge it is then.

[ernie koala]

Just a sledge it is then.

Or maybe a fact.

[Hartijon]

Just a sledge it is then.

Not quite! What he said may in fact be correct but surely to dismiss the effort of a player who kicks 5 goals (flatters) is ignoring an important fact.This guy can play poorly in the coaches opinion and still kick 5 goals!! So lets make him defend more in the twos while we have no goal kickers in the A grade? This is the kind of negative thinking that irritates me enormously. We then end up with a forward line that can defend but can't kick goals so the game becomes a defensive slog. Just look how slick the forward lines of Essendon and Carlton were .Slick forwards convert limited opportunities into goals.

Ok,Big Al,I admit Henry was not my favourite player and my analagy to "Eddie the Eagle" may have been a touch unkind but TDL is a skilled goal kicker that needs encouragement and development and I doubt he is getting that after hearing Henry's comments on him.

[ugg]

What Playfair said was not unreasonable. Up close to the end of the third quarter TDL was goalless and had no impact on the game. He essentially kicked his 5 in junk time, and a few of them were the result of his teammates' great work. However, the point that H is going about is not about TDL's ability to kick goals. He knows and we know and Trent knows very well that he is an excellent goalkicker. The coaches want TDL to work on his forward pressure and work off the ball, they only have to point to Collingwood's bevy of half-forward types like Beams, Sidebottom, Dick, Krakouer, Blair and Didak as the exemplars to follow.

[Big Al]

Ok,Big Al,I admit Henry was not my favourite player and my analagy to "Eddie the Eagle" may have been a touch unkind but TDL is a skilled goal kicker that needs encouragement and development and I doubt he is getting that after hearing Henry's comments on him.

Unless you have listening devices at the club you don't know what TDL is getting behind the scenes. It could well be that TDL needs a public rebuke of this nature to get his mind back on the job. TDL could have been a little big headed due to the 5 goals and needed to be put in his place. Point is we just don't know.

Whether we like it or not in modern footy the small forwards need to ensure that their pressure skills not allow the ball to easily leave the forward line. No point in kicking 5 goals if you give up just as many because you allowed the opposition to rebound quickly. I've seen TDL a few times in the reserves this year and I think Henry is 100% correct with his assessment.

I like TDL and I'm sure he'll be back in the seniors before too long.

[ugg]

Umpires
8. Brett ROSEBURY (15W 14L 1D - 50.00%)
21. Simon MEREDITH (11W 7L - 61.11%)
32. Jacob MOLLISON (3W - 100.00%)
Emergency
5. Brett RITCHIE (No games)

[Hartijon]

Unless you have listening devices at the club you don't know what TDL is getting behind the scenes. It could well be that TDL needs a public rebuke of this nature to get his mind back on the job. TDL could have been a little big headed due to the 5 goals and needed to be put in his place. Point is we just don't know.

Whether we like it or not in modern footy the small forwards need to ensure that their pressure skills not allow the ball to easily leave the forward line. No point in kicking 5 goals if you give up just as many because you allowed the opposition to rebound quickly. I've seen TDL a few times in the reserves this year and I think Henry is 100% correct with his assessment.

I like TDL and I'm sure he'll be back in the seniors before too long.

If you have watched the reserves and say Henry is 100% correct,thats good enough for me. :-)

[liz]

I didn't read Playfair's comments as a public rebuke of TDL - more an explanation for those who just read the scoreboard and see Trent kicked 5 goals and wonder why he's not straight back into the senior team. Similarly with Johnston, even those of us who watched the game last week were suggesting he'd done enough for a senior debut. Playfair's comments came across as encouraging for Lewis but they made it clear they are looking for him to get the consistency into his game before he wins a senior spot. He actually had been pretty good in each of the reserves games I've seen this year, but last season he was prone to 3 good games followed by one pretty ordinary one, so you can see where the coaches are coming from.

I really like the reports that Playfair is providing on the website this year. They give us just a tiny bit of insight into where our developing players are. It is a huge improvement on the reports of recent years which just read like a narrative of who kicked goals and in what order.

[Big Al]

Umpires
8. Brett ROSEBURY (15W 14L 1D - 50.00%)
21. Simon MEREDITH (11W 7L - 61.11%)
32. Jacob MOLLISON (3W - 100.00%)
Emergency
5. Brett RITCHIE (No games)

Jacob's a good Umpire.

[Nich]

Jacob's a good Umpire.

No Ump likes stats like that. It gives them a bad name. The start of the square up will be tomorrow

[Triple B]

I'm not a Rosebury fan at all.

Caned us something chronic in the semi v the Bullies last year. I'm in Row A for this match, so I'll be giving him an extra gobfull every time he gets within earshot, believe me.