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  • Margie
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2003
    • 800

    #16
    Originally posted by ugg
    Poor Jesse can't stay away from interchange imbroglios can he? He's not exactly a small guy either, how could you miss him!
    I heard on Sky News that White was lying/sitting on the ground receiving treatment. Not down in the rooms.

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    • Gezball
      Warming the Bench
      • Mar 2010
      • 244

      #17
      There was also a free kick awarded to Eddie Betts in front of goal for holding the ball which was terrible... It also helped shift momentum. I can't remember which Swan he tackled it but he definitely didn't have prior opportunity. Eddie Betts went back and slotted it through... Very annoying.

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      • ugg
        Can you feel it?
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15968

        #18
        It was Smith (or maybe Mattner) and I think it was given because that player didn't make the token attempt at trying to get it out.
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        • Bas
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4457

          #19
          Originally posted by ugg
          It was Smith (or maybe Mattner) and I think it was given because that player didn't make the token attempt at trying to get it out.
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          • Big Al
            Veterans List
            • Feb 2005
            • 7007

            #20
            Port have just conceded a goal from an Interchange infringement.

            Talk about a rule that opens a nut with a sledgehammer. Just ridiculous.
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            • top40
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2007
              • 933

              #21
              The penalty is comparable somewhat to Capital Punishment. What if the decision is wrong? You can't reverse it.

              What bothered me was that almost all of the players as well as the Swans' on-ground officials were emotionally distracted by the decision. They lost their focus. And consequently, by the 4th quarter, exacerbated by the ill-effects of the bye, they became physically over-wrought. Still a hard call to say that it determined the result of the game. In the end, we will never know.

              What the AFL needs to do is to IMMEDIATELY reform this rule. Make it a free kick from the centre bounce.

              One last thought. Any one sense the irony that one of the reasons why the decision was so wrong, was because the officier did not notice Jesse White off the ground being attended to?

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              • liz
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                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16758

                #22
                Originally posted by top40
                Still a hard call to say that it determined the result of the game. In the end, we will never know.
                I reckon we do know that it didn't affect the outcome, as things turned out. Even if one could attribute short term distraction by the decision, it doesn't explain why the Swans were so lethargic in the final term. And the eventual scoreline flattered us in the sense that the final two goals we scored came once the Carlton defence had packed their bags for the night.

                That doesn't mean that the incident shouldn't be investigated and action taken, because it certainly might have affected the outcome given how tight the contest was at the time. Surely the interchange stewards have a better system than just counting the blokes they can see sitting on the bench?

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                • Doctor
                  Bay 29
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2757

                  #23
                  The lethargy seems to be in line with the trend of the way teams play after coming off the bye. The interchange thing is a dead set joke though. While 50/50 calls are a matter of interpretation by field umpires, in the cold light of day you can accept that they are going to make mistakes. This interchange one was an error of fact and is therefor inexcusable. If there is any doubt over it, and there clearly was, they need to hold up play while the check on it and then go one again. It's impossible to say whether or not it cost us the game but it certainly gave them a lot of momentum and caused us to drop our heads.
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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #24
                    Originally posted by top40
                    ... One last thought. Any one sense the irony that one of the reasons why the decision was so wrong, was because the officer did not notice Jesse White off the ground being attended to?
                    Yes, as distinct from being on the ground too soon!
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Legs Akimbo
                      Grand Poobah
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 2809

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Doctor
                      The lethargy seems to be in line with the trend of the way teams play after coming off the bye. The interchange thing is a dead set joke though. While 50/50 calls are a matter of interpretation by field umpires, in the cold light of day you can accept that they are going to make mistakes. This interchange one was an error of fact and is therefor inexcusable. If there is any doubt over it, and there clearly was, they need to hold up play while the check on it and then go one again. It's impossible to say whether or not it cost us the game but it certainly gave them a lot of momentum and caused us to drop our heads.
                      I was gobsmacked when I looked ahead through the draw and saw that there are many weeks where three teams have a bye. I am sure there is a good reason for it, but I don't get it.
                      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                      • ugg
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15968

                        #26
                        It's because you have 17 teams with 2 byes each. If you were to allocate 1 team per round, you would only get up to 24 byes. Hence the AFL needs to schedule 5 weeks with 2 extra byes to account for the difference of 10.
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                        • Legs Akimbo
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                          • Apr 2005
                          • 2809

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ugg
                          It's because you have 17 teams with 2 byes each. If you were to allocate 1 team per round, you would only get up to 24 byes. Hence the AFL needs to schedule 5 weeks with 2 extra byes to account for the difference of 10.
                          Thanks Ugg. How did it work last year with 16 teams?
                          He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                          • ugg
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15968

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                            Thanks Ugg. How did it work last year with 16 teams?
                            They split 1 bye across 2 weeks. I think it was 10 teams in one week and 6 the other? Or something like that.
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                            • Cpt. Kirk
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 351

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                              Thanks Ugg. How did it work last year with 16 teams?
                              Since it was even amount of teams there was no need for a bye and there was none. There was a split round in the middle of the season for the players to recuperate.

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                              • swansrule100
                                The quarterback
                                • May 2004
                                • 4538

                                #30
                                Originally posted by liz
                                I reckon we do know that it didn't affect the outcome, as things turned out. Even if one could attribute short term distraction by the decision, it doesn't explain why the Swans were so lethargic in the final term. And the eventual scoreline flattered us in the sense that the final two goals we scored came once the Carlton defence had packed their bags for the night.

                                That doesn't mean that the incident shouldn't be investigated and action taken, because it certainly might have affected the outcome given how tight the contest was at the time. Surely the interchange stewards have a better system than just counting the blokes they can see sitting on the bench?

                                i agree with you 100% it just seems stupid it could happen, but it didnt make a difference to the result. The problem is if we complain we wont get much sympathy as we are the reason the rule came in.
                                Theres not much left to say

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