Changes for Rnd. 9 v Hawthorn.. (Return of the Eski!)

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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    #61
    Originally posted by Captain
    I reckon play Alex Johnson on Buddy. Let the kid see what the big time is about.
    Hmmmm.... possibly coaching blunder of the century.

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    • Plugger46
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2003
      • 3674

      #62
      Originally posted by Captain
      I reckon play Alex Johnson on Buddy. Let the kid see what the big time is about.
      I'd prefer we won the game. That sounds like Dawson on Rocca to me.
      Bloods

      "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #63
        A cheeky suggestion has certainly invoked some interesting responses.

        One point that has been massively missed is that if our midfield doesn't play well and stop the easy supply then we will be thrashed. However if our midfield dominates then I don't care who plays on Buddy, we will win.

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        • Matt79
          Bring it on!
          • Sep 2004
          • 3143

          #64
          Hawthorn's defence is lacking tall defenders particulary Gilham. I would like to see some height in the forward line. Bring TDL and White in.
          Swannies for life!

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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            #65
            Originally posted by Matt79
            Hawthorn's defence is lacking tall defenders particulary Gilham. I would like to see some height in the forward line. Bring TDL and White in.
            Who would you leave out?

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            • aardvark
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2010
              • 5685

              #66
              Originally posted by Matt79
              . Bring TDL and White in.
              Why oh why? Everitt and Reid take marks and kick goals. Two things White rarely did.

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              • Jewels
                On the Rookie List
                • Oct 2006
                • 3258

                #67
                Gee, AJ on Buddy and White in the forward line

                I'm with Plugger, I'd like to win the game thanks.

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                • aardvark
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 5685

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Jewels
                  Gee, AJ on Buddy and White in the forward line

                  I'm with Plugger, I'd like to win the game thanks.
                  +1

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #69
                    At some stage it might make more sense to put White on Buddy ... but not just yet.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Matt79
                      Bring it on!
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 3143

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Captain
                      Who would you leave out?
                      Good question!! I think Nipper definitely goes out for TDL. Parker starts on the bench. As for White...well that is where he may get stuck! I guess my point was more trying to stretch the Hawkes defence. He may not take as many marks / kicks goals as we would like BUT he does take another tall defender and usually provide a contest. The chain reaction type approach...Reid would then have their 2nd or 3rd best defender etc.
                      Swannies for life!

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                      • GongSwan
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1362

                        #71
                        Roos made Crouch a great tagger by playing him on great players, I think he started on one N Buckley and got a self confessed bath, but in the end, we ended up with possibly the best tagger in the comp at that time, maybe this was the thinking behind the suggestion to play AJ on Buddy. It matters not, the game will be won in the midfield, and don't be surprised to see Buddy popping up in the square bombing from 60 metres out
                        You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                        • Chilcott
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 595

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Matt79
                          Good question!! I think Nipper definitely goes out for TDL. Parker starts on the bench. As for White...well that is where he may get stuck! I guess my point was more trying to stretch the Hawkes defence. He may not take as many marks / kicks goals as we would like BUT he does take another tall defender and usually provide a contest. The chain reaction type approach...Reid would then have their 2nd or 3rd best defender etc.
                          I understand your thinking Matt 79. However, White has done nothing to justify his spot in the senior side. Also, even if we were silly enough to bring in White, Reid/Goodes would get the number 1 and 2 defenders and White would probably get the 3rd or 4th defender.

                          With Hawthorn a bit short on for height in their backline, I would bring in LJ for Gordon. Also, would try and find a spot for TDL, but don't know who to leave out, at this stage.

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9723

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Chilcott
                            I understand your thinking Matt 79. However, White has done nothing to justify his spot in the senior side. Also, even if we were silly enough to bring in White, Reid/Goodes would get the number 1 and 2 defenders and White would probably get the 3rd or 4th defender.

                            With Hawthorn a bit short on for height in their backline, I would bring in LJ for Gordon. Also, would try and find a spot for TDL, but don't know who to leave out, at this stage.
                            When White has played as a forward in the seniors this year have Reid/Goodes always drawn the top 2 defenders? I'm not sure that they have.

                            Whilst I know he was far from a star, I think Jesse's struggles in the senior side have been overstated a bit. Being run in the ruck seemed to significantly take its toll on him, I don't think he would have spent more than half a game in the forward line (apart from the last game he played) and he's averaging the 3rd most goals per game for the team. He had 1 game where he had a chance to just line up as a forward (and didn't play well).
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9723

                              #74
                              Originally posted by aardvark
                              Why oh why? Everitt and Reid take marks and kick goals. Two things White rarely did.
                              Whilst he was excellent on the weekend and I am very excited about him, Reid kicked 3 goals (in a complete drubbing where his team kicked 18 goals), which brings him to a grand total of 4 goals on the season from 7 games. Apart from a game where he went down back, Sam has basically played exclusively as a key forward and has circa 80% TOG. White has kicked 6 goals from 5 games and has played about 50% of his TOG (roughly) as a key forward.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                              • Chilcott
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 595

                                #75
                                Originally posted by stellation
                                Whilst he was excellent on the weekend and I am very excited about him, Reid kicked 3 goals (in a complete drubbing where his team kicked 18 goals), which brings him to a grand total of 4 goals on the season from 7 games. Apart from a game where he went down back, Sam has basically played exclusively as a key forward and has circa 80% TOG. White has kicked 6 goals from 5 games and has played about 50% of his TOG (roughly) as a key forward.
                                Stellation, we may have to agree to disagree.

                                For a player that has been on the list for as long as Jessie (2006 National Draft), 6 goals from 5 games for a key forward
                                just doesn't cut it. An average of 6 disposals and 1.4 marks per game is not good enough.

                                Sam Reid has been on the list for a little over a year. His average disposals of 10.3 per game and 4 marks is a hell of a lot better then Jesse's.

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