Changes for Rnd 10 v Roos (LJ to debut!)

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  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    Changes for Rnd 10 v Roos (LJ to debut!)

    We need players who can kick goals.

    In: TDL, White, Seaby
    Out: Bird, Johnson, Parker

    Johnson - unlucky but LRT is ahead of him as the 3rd tall backman

    Forward line to look like:

    TDL White Everitt
    McGlynn Reid ROK

    Seaby/Mummy, Goodes and Shaw to be other options used up forward.
  • Matt79
    Bring it on!
    • Sep 2004
    • 3143

    #2
    I think LJ surely deserves a crack now to!
    Swannies for life!

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    • Big Al
      Veterans List
      • Feb 2005
      • 7007

      #3
      No to White and give Parker a full game. Agree on Seabs and TDL to come in. Jetta to Sub.
      ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #4
        Originally posted by Matt79
        I think LJ surely deserves a crack now to!
        I agree. Who cames out for him though? Everiit? Reid?

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        • Matt79
          Bring it on!
          • Sep 2004
          • 3143

          #5
          Originally posted by Captain
          I agree. Who cames out for him though? Everiit? Reid?
          Definitely Everitt out for LJ (as he can play frwd or back too). Reid is one who will blossom if he is not taking the number 1 fullback each week, he simply does not have the body strength.
          Swannies for life!

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15970

            #6
            If I were to bring LJ, I'd keep Everitt in there to allow LJ to get a lesser defender. But I can't squeeze him into my proposed side.

            Parker will either be the sub for the third week in a row, or more likely drop back to the ressies to regain match fitness. Longmire's comments about Jetta in the post match press conference weren't very complimentary so he might be in the firing line as well. We're severely lacking pace in the midfiield as it is so we can't really afford to drop him, and unfortunately the two main reserves candidates in this regard either didn't play the last match (Sumner) or have been below par for most of the year (Meredith)

            Another factor to take into account are that the two sides (seniors and ressies) will be playing at the same time so there will be 1-3 emergencies in Melbourne who will unfortunately miss out on another week of football.

            In: TDL, Seaby
            Out: AJ, Parker
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            • Bas
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4457

              #7
              I don't think you can blame Longmire for all the actual mistakes the players made today.

              For years everyone wanted Roos to blood youngsters. Longmire is now doing it and we just need to accept that there will be good and bad weeks - that includes Everitt.

              I might force to watch the game again this week to see how different it looked on telly.
              In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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              • CJK
                Human
                • Apr 2006
                • 2170

                #8
                Just remember Rohan giving me a death stare, walking past, when I was giving boos at 3qt time.

                Hahaha
                -

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                • Rob-bloods
                  What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 931

                  #9
                  If we are going to get rolled we may as well give Lewis J and Parker a run, plus give Meredith a run. TDL must get a forward role if he's fit and Seaby gets a go. If LRT is not needed in defence then don't play him, else put him in the backs. Jed Lamb appears a natural goal sneak so give him a subs run.
                  Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

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                  • swansrule100
                    The quarterback
                    • May 2004
                    • 4538

                    #10
                    in seaby or white or currie- a second ruck option, johnson, tdl

                    out johnson, jetta, and im undecided as i want to see parker play a full game, but i think we have too many similar players. Perhaps reid needs a rest?

                    Perhaps even just go the two changes and get a ruck and tdl in.
                    Theres not much left to say

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                    • robamiee
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 688

                      #11
                      In: Seaby LJ TDL Parker (Fullgame)
                      Out: Jetta (needs a couple of confidence games), Bird,

                      Keep AJ in the backline, run Mal in the forwards....

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                      • BSA5
                        Senior Player
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2522

                        #12
                        Changes minimal. The reason we got rolled wasn't our forwardline, it was our midfield. Kennedy and McVeigh fell asleep after a good start, Bird was tagging Mitchell and they negated each other, Jude tried hard but things weren't working, and LRT and a tired Mumford couldn't compete in the ruck as effectively as we're used to. Our midfield has runs on the board, so I don't think dropping them is going to do much.

                        The only change could be Seaby in, Johnson out, LRT to the backline. Tough on Johnson but its a tough unit to crack. Parker could maybe make way to get some good reserves time too, but that's for Longmire to decide.
                        Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16773

                          #13
                          I'm not convinced about the team balance - specifically, the number of HBFers we have. A couple of seasons ago you couldn't have too many of these, because the key was how the ball was run out of defence via a chain of handballs. But with the forward press in vogue at the moment, it is almost impossible to do this, meaning more teams (including us) are resorting to a quick, untargeted kick under pressure, and hoping to either take a mark in the midfield or at least get the ball over the boundary.

                          Marty played the early season more as a key defender than a rebounder and didn't do too badly given it's not really his thing. But now we have Ted, Reg and AJ, not to mention LRT (whose best value is really as a defender, not a makeshift ruck-cum-forward). We also have Kennelly and Malceski now back in the team.

                          I know Shaw is everyone's favourite whipping boy (in the absence of Bevan and Moore) but he's actually been doing defensive roles on small, quick forwards. Cyril beat him today, and he made some disposal howlers, but I doubt anyone else would have kept Rioli quieter and I didn't think he disgraced himself by any means. But something else has to give. We need more players who can play further up the ground and really keep the defensive pressure tighter around our half forward line.

                          Mattner has been terrific this year but I am not quite sure there is spot for him in defence if Mal and Kennelly are down there also. I'd like to see him tried on the wing, or half-forward because he can chase and tackle. Alternatively Mal needs to play that role - less for his tackling than for his ability to just sometimes spot up a target in the forward 50. Or maybe there isn't room at the moment for Kennelly in the side - he is a bit of a spare parts player at the moment, neither defending convincingly nor providing much drive from the backline. His first game back, he played further up the ground, so maybe he too, could be tried somewhere else. One of them needs to provide something around the wings / half forward line.

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                          • GongSwan
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1362

                            #14
                            Some of our blokes looked like they needed a holiday today, and while the a game agaist Brisbane won't be a holiday, will be a bit easier than the hawks. They really did look tired, some of the efforts didn't look good at all. You have to give it to the Hawks, they played really well, and we fell back into those short lapses when 3 goals in 2 minutes were kicked on us. That might be a leadership thing. I think we bring Seaby in to take some of the load off Mummy. LRT is serviceable, but plays his best footy at CHB, Mal is best off half back, Trddy might need a rest, and Mattner was probably the worst game I've seen him play. We simply can't rely on Jude and Goodes and ROK to carry us every week, the opposition teams know who they have to take out of the game, and even though Hanners played well today, he is not seasoned enough to carry us. We can't win a flag this year, start looking forward and trying some different things.Let's bite the bullet and risk losing some games without complaining. There are no miracles in footy, just hard work and game time
                            You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15970

                              #15
                              Originally posted by liz
                              Mattner has been terrific this year but I am not quite sure there is spot for him in defence if Mal and Kennelly are down there also. I'd like to see him tried on the wing, or half-forward because he can chase and tackle.
                              It seemed to me that they tried Marty on the wing late in the game. However, I would prefer Marty back in defence and Mal further up the ground - it plays to their strengths. Marty's forte is his desperation in defence but tends to get the fumbles and his kicking does slip up now and then. Mal's main asset is his kicking (save for his set shot yesterday which I felt was a turning point) but isn't as defensively orientated as Marty.
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