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  • Cheer_Cheer
    Regular in the Side
    • Jul 2009
    • 739

    #31
    Originally posted by GoRhino
    Show me the leopard that changed his spots? Reid's worth the investment in time and money. At the moment he's being manoeuvred off the ball a little too easily but I'm sure will bulk up over summer. His hands are not as good as some above have suggested but the positive signs are there. Giving my age away here but in the early Eighties, guys like Round, Carroll, Daniher and Morwood used to stab pass the ball at one another from a very close distance prior to formal training sessions and sometimes at the end when others were drinking chiciken noodle soup! Probably too old fashioned an exercise these days but those guys didn't drop too many.
    That is exactly the drill I think of when I think of White.. Lets hope he gets it together before losing him becomes an option.

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #32
      Originally posted by Lucky Knickers
      Not the Fev Man but the Man Man right?
      I think he is going to wake up one morning and go out there and own that F50 in a senior game. I hope he can do that in the next year or two.
      ... with US!
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • Lucky Knickers
        Fandom of Fabulousness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4220

        #33
        Originally posted by dimelb
        ... with US!
        Goes without saying!

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        • Rob-bloods
          What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
          • Aug 2003
          • 931

          #34
          I agrre with BSA5....White seems to have problems knowing where to run at times, young players like Johnstone are played at the back to learn their trade. It seems to me too that White could do with a run with the ball coming down to him, he's big and brave quick for his size, I cannot believe he hasn't had a run at the back.
          Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

          I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #35
            Originally posted by BSA5
            Jack Riewoldt could always take a mark. White seriously lacks in this department. He has always had extremely hard hands, and it's very difficult to be a marking target inside 50 if you can't catch the ball.

            I honestly think White could make it as a key defender, but we have proven ourselves to be overflowing in that department. Reg, LRT and Ted all have claims of being our best KPD, while Alex Johnson is still in the team despite this. Campbell Heath is another developing KPD.

            I'd love nothing more than for things to click for White and for him to start playing the footy he's capable of. He's a great kick, great leap, he's bloody quick for a guy his size, and he's a good decision maker. I can see him as an athletic spoil merchant who can keep his opponent quiet, and get to contests and shut them down. I just can't see room for him at the Swans.

            Yeah, I've been saying this for a while now. He has all the physical attributes to make a key defender.
            His weaknesses are marking and getting lost in a game..Both of these are nullified as a defender.
            IMO give him an extended period in the 2's in defence and see how he develops...nothing to loose.

            What ever they do with him, please stop playing him in the ruck. Not every player can be a multitasker , there will always be room for a specialist key position player, for the foreseeable future anyway.
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • Hartijon
              On the Rookie List
              • May 2008
              • 1536

              #36
              [QUOTE=ernie koala;531156]
              His weaknesses are marking and getting lost in a game..Both of these are nullified as a defender.

              Last time I watched a game the defenders had to be able to mark.The good ones took contested marks and at other times courageous marks either waiting for a high ball or running into oncoming packs.Where has the idea come from that
              White can't mark therefore he will be alright in the backline??

              He would leak more goals than Bevan ever did if he could not hold onto the ball.Compare the number of spoils Reg does to the number of marks he takes.Spill one mark in the backlines and it usually costs a goal! If you can't mark you can't play.......anywhere!

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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #37
                [QUOTE=Hartijon;531173]
                Originally posted by ernie koala
                His weaknesses are marking and getting lost in a game..Both of these are nullified as a defender.

                Last time I watched a game the defenders had to be able to mark.The good ones took contested marks and at other times courageous marks either waiting for a high ball or running into oncoming packs.Where has the idea come from that
                White can't mark therefore he will be alright in the backline??

                He would leak more goals than Bevan ever did if he could not hold onto the ball.Compare the number of spoils Reg does to the number of marks he takes.Spill one mark in the backlines and it usually costs a goal! If you can't mark you can't play.......anywhere!
                I didn't say he can't mark, he can mark. But taking pack marks is certainly not one of his strengths. As a defender the number 1 priority is to make sure your opponent doesn't mark the ball, ie spoiling.

                If as a defender you attempt to mark a ball close to goal, and as a result of not marking it your opponent marks it and goals...I assure you you'll be hearing from your coach in no uncertain terms, that spoiling should be the first option.

                My point is simply that as a key forward you should be able to take contested marks, pack marks, marks on the lead, that's your job. As a defender, stopping your opponent from scoring is your primary job.

                Spoiling is usually the first option a coach wants from you. It's a matter of judgement as to when to spoil and when to attempt to mark.

                Obviously the best defenders take plenty of marks, but much of this comes down to confidence, and how your going that particular day against that particular opponent.

                All I'm saying with White is lets try him as defender and see how he develops, nothing to loose at this stage.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • Triple B
                  Formerly 'BBB'
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6999

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ernie koala
                  All I'm saying with White is lets try him as defender and see how he develops, nothing to loose at this stage.
                  He's played a whole season in the 2's almost exclusively at fullback previously.

                  Not saying it's not an option to go back even at this stage, but let's not pretend the Swans have never seen him play in defence before.
                  Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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