Lewis Jetta........level jumping..........and what about AJ and Sammy Reid

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  • robamiee
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2005
    • 688

    #46
    We should be signing Sammy Reid on a 5 year contract now...
    I wouldn't worry about Jetta, to me he is suffering 2nd yr itis, (alot of yngsters do), but the odd spell in the 2's wont hurt him...
    TDL was soft in the 1st half but came good in the 2nd, needs another couple fo weeks in the 1st's to get the confidence that he belongs there...

    Be good to see Rohan and hopefully lamb come into the mix

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    • swansprincess
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2011
      • 306

      #47
      Originally posted by Nich
      One thing I am often critical of Jetts for is that when at the ground - you can see when we are coming out of our 50 that Jetta fails to use his speed to act as a lead up target. Now maybe it's a directive for him not to get too involved? But it seems more than often he stands around failing to provide an option. Jetts has a great burst of speed and needs to break from his opponent more to his advantage. Maybe that will come but the fact it's not a natural instinct worries me a little. Maybe i'm off the mark?? It's just something that stands out to me that's all.
      Running to be a target wouldn't help either, as 90% of the time he fails to mark an easy ball.

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      • Triple B
        Formerly 'BBB'
        • Feb 2003
        • 6999

        #48
        Originally posted by swansprincess
        ... as 90% of the time he fails to mark an easy ball.
        I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate...
        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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        • happy
          Pushing for Selection
          • Sep 2005
          • 77

          #49
          hate the TDL hate . rubbish
          messianic game-thieving, god like, fried chicken eater

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          • bennyfabulous
            Warming the Bench
            • Apr 2009
            • 351

            #50
            Originally posted by happy
            hate the TDL hate . rubbish
            Agree totally. TDL will be good for us, give him a chance. AJ has been incredibly good for a first year player (and was very good on the weekend). Sammy is truly special and Jetts will improve immensely with more games.

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            • Mr Magoo
              Senior Player
              • May 2008
              • 1255

              #51
              I dont think there has been a lot of TDL hate going on. The issue is that his shortcomings on Saturday night were exactly what the coaches had said was he had to work on to get back into the seniors team ( when all were claiming horse to be totally incompetent for not picking him). The fact is that TDL is not the answer to our forward problems, he is always going to be a third or even fourth leadup forward who will probably kick about a goal a game and sometimes two or three.

              The answer to our forward problem is Jesse White BUT a jesse white that plays with confidence , leads , contests , marks and generally makes life hell for his opponent. Our problem is that the Jesse White we have at the moment is not performing to the standard expected of a key position forward and continually looks soft against a key position backmen. There really isnt anyone else to choose from , Johnstone still looks a little light for key position (and is injured), johnson the same, LRT or seaby or pyke for that matter should be the resting ruckmen/ third tall and not the FF and after that who do we have.

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              • chuckie
                Warming the Bench
                • Jan 2003
                • 301

                #52
                My wife and I spoke to Trent on Sunday at the kids clinic. All he would say was that he was really upset that he missed a tackle that resulted in a goal. I wonder if anything had been said to him after the game.

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                • penga
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2601

                  #53
                  Originally posted by happy
                  hate the TDL hate . rubbish
                  Well, I'm going to dive the TDL hate bandwagon, and drive it hard. How many players of his type have you seen in league footy? Mark Williams, Phil Matera, Damien Cupido, and who else? I would include Paul Medhurst in that list, but I distinctly remember him smashing Leo one day over at Subiaco in his Freo days, with numerous toe-to-toe contests going Medhurst's way. Nick Davis had the ability to take the contested mark, too. Trent is a one-trick pony. Hit him lace out, and he will finish, but without the pinpoint delivery, he then becomes a liability. The service he receives in the reserves is why he looks so good at that level, as the supply line is not under near the same amount of pressure that he encounters in the firsts. The ball that was sat on his head, where Fletcher easily out-marked him, wasn't his fault, sure. But his lack of size, in the role that he plays, meant that he had absolutely no way of ever winning that contest.

                  His attack on the ball can be summed up with one word: timid. I'm not basing this on his one missed tackle, or one marking contest, but what I have seen so far of him in his career. IMNSHO, he has no future in the AFL. Time to move on. Drop him, for good, and bring in Spang/Pyke to play the exact same role.
                  C'mon Chels!

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                  • Nich
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 1291

                    #54
                    That's ridiculous from my point of view. It's only a result of our fractured forward line that Fletcher was even on him for starters. That would rarely happen as a match-up. That would have happened to almost every other small forward in the league. There is plenty of room in the AFL for a player of the ilk of TDL. It's his 2nd year of Footy, and his Senior exposure has been inconsistent. Give him a few more years. Supporters are so quick to demand the best from young players so quickly.

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                    • Dosser
                      Just wild about Harry
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1833

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Nich
                      That's ridiculous from my point of view. It's only a result of our fractured forward line that Fletcher was even on him for starters. That would rarely happen as a match-up. That would have happened to almost every other small forward in the league. There is plenty of room in the AFL for a player of the ilk of TDL. It's his 2nd year of Footy, and his Senior exposure has been inconsistent. Give him a few more years. Supporters are so quick to demand the best from young players so quickly.
                      Agree. How dare TDL get outmarked overhead by one of the best backmen of this generation (and who is about 10cm taller)?!? In reality, TDL is a pocket, not a FF. Imagine what he would be like as a lead-up pocket with the big FF back in the goal square battling against a couple of backmen? All we need is the big FF (Jesse, are you reading this?) and we could have a match-winner. Give him time and the right personnel beside him and he will repay in spades.

                      i think his only danger would be a fit and experienced Jed Lamb, though...

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                      • Big Al
                        Veterans List
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7007

                        #56
                        Originally posted by penga
                        Well, I'm going to dive the TDL hate bandwagon, and drive it hard. How many players of his type have you seen in league footy? Mark Williams, Phil Matera, Damien Cupido, and who else? I would include Paul Medhurst in that list, but I distinctly remember him smashing Leo one day over at Subiaco in his Freo days, with numerous toe-to-toe contests going Medhurst's way. Nick Davis had the ability to take the contested mark, too. Trent is a one-trick pony. Hit him lace out, and he will finish, but without the pinpoint delivery, he then becomes a liability. The service he receives in the reserves is why he looks so good at that level, as the supply line is not under near the same amount of pressure that he encounters in the firsts. The ball that was sat on his head, where Fletcher easily out-marked him, wasn't his fault, sure. But his lack of size, in the role that he plays, meant that he had absolutely no way of ever winning that contest.

                        His attack on the ball can be summed up with one word: timid. I'm not basing this on his one missed tackle, or one marking contest, but what I have seen so far of him in his career. IMNSHO, he has no future in the AFL. Time to move on. Drop him, for good, and bring in Spang/Pyke to play the exact same role.
                        Have to admire your guts here penga. This view in a few seasons will be either vindicated or look rather silly.

                        To say a player has no future in the AFL after a handful games is a big call. I'd prefer to give someone an extended crack at it before making that judgement. He's a smart player and with another pre-season will get stronger. It's my view that this time next year TDL will be an automatic inclusion.
                        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                        Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                        • Triple B
                          Formerly 'BBB'
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 6999

                          #57
                          Originally posted by penga
                          Well, I'm going to dive the TDL hate bandwagon, and drive it hard.....
                          The first part of your post is not quite right. We've seen him take a mountain of marks in the ressies that haven't hit him lace out, that is not his problem.

                          Your summary of his attack on the ball is on the money and that's the problem. It's what the coaching staff (and most of the ressie watchers) have been saying all year while plenty of the numpties around here have shouted for his inclusion from the rooftops and called for Longmire's head because he wasn't an auto pick.

                          No way known is he a spent force, he's still a babe in footy terms, but I agree at this stage that Spangher is a much better option if he can get himself fit.
                          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11337

                            #58
                            Originally posted by penga
                            Well, I'm going to dive the TDL hate bandwagon, and drive it hard. How many players of his type have you seen in league footy? Mark Williams, Phil Matera, Damien Cupido, and who else? I would include Paul Medhurst in that list, but I distinctly remember him smashing Leo one day over at Subiaco in his Freo days, with numerous toe-to-toe contests going Medhurst's way. Nick Davis had the ability to take the contested mark, too. Trent is a one-trick pony. Hit him lace out, and he will finish, but without the pinpoint delivery, he then becomes a liability. The service he receives in the reserves is why he looks so good at that level, as the supply line is not under near the same amount of pressure that he encounters in the firsts. The ball that was sat on his head, where Fletcher easily out-marked him, wasn't his fault, sure. But his lack of size, in the role that he plays, meant that he had absolutely no way of ever winning that contest.

                            His attack on the ball can be summed up with one word: timid. I'm not basing this on his one missed tackle, or one marking contest, but what I have seen so far of him in his career. IMNSHO, he has no future in the AFL. Time to move on. Drop him, for good, and bring in Spang/Pyke to play the exact same role.
                            Agree. Typical early to mid 60's South Melbourne HFF. Plays the odd good game but physically finds it very difficult to handle.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • bennyfabulous
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 351

                              #59
                              Originally posted by penga
                              Well, I'm going to dive the TDL hate bandwagon, and drive it hard.........
                              Give me a break.

                              The guy is averaging 2 goals a game. Give him a season or two to work on his definciencies before cutting him loose.

                              "Has no future in the AFL", would be the stupidest comment ever, if i thought you werent making it toungue in cheek!

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                              • Peace
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 598

                                #60
                                TDL's attack on the ball got us one game further into the finals last year! A shock inclusion on the weekend after a few weeks injured, you can forgive him for being a little soft on a couple occasions...

                                Barring injury, he will be in our best 22 next year.

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