Halls side of the story

[Plugger46]

It was his job to manage the needs to 45-6 young men (of varying degrees of maturity, not always associated with their ages) not to mention managing a support staff of goodness knows how many. If, for a period of a couple of days, he was so pissed off with one of his charges that he didn't feel inclined to speak with him, that hardly adds up to a dereliction of duty.

Supposed Roos had phone Barry on the Sunday evening, angry as hell, and said to him "Barry, I never want to see your face again. You're a brainless idiot. Consider your time at the well and truly over." Would everything then be peachy between Roos and Barry? Would Roos have been seen to have "done his job"?

But of those 45-6 there was one who had a significant issue (all by his own doing admittedly) and I find it staggering that with all of the media attention, the senior coach didn't speak to Hall about it until the Tuesday.

I would expect someone in his position to react better than that.

I think he made a blue, not the end of the world though.

[swannielady]

But of those 45-6 there was one who had a significant issue (all by his own doing admittedly) and I find it staggering that with all of the media attention, the senior coach didn't speak to Hall about it until the Tuesday.

I would expect someone in his position to react better than that.


I think he made a blue, not the end of the world though.

Funny how Roos made the blue. One man stands and has a swipe at another for reacting to his misdemours not to his liking. The other takes the swipe and admits he could have done things differently, no swipe back. I know who has the class here.

[Plugger46]

Funny how Roos made the blue. One man stands and has a swipe at another for reacting to his misdemours not to his liking. The other takes the swipe and admits he could have done things differently, no swipe back. I know who has the class here.

I'm not saying Baz didn't make a blue, I think I made that pretty clear. Roos has pretty much admitted he made a mistake and Hall agrees.

[AnnieH]

Funny how Roos made the blue. One man stands and has a swipe at another for reacting to his misdemours not to his liking. The other takes the swipe and admits he could have done things differently, no swipe back. I know who has the class here.

Like someone else said earlier ... I'd rather have a beer with Roosey!!

[BSA5]

Has Roos admitted he acted inappropriately, or just said that if he had his time again, he might do things differently? The distinction is subtle but it is there. I imagine that with the passing of time, Roos has forgotten the strength of his emotions at the time. I know I have got so angry at times with the actions of a person that I haven't wanted to speak with them for fear of what I might say (and later regret). After all, it is not as if Roos didn't talk to Hall for a week - it was just a couple of days. I am surprised that Hall, who admits his actions were to blame, can't seem to understand why Roos might not have talked to him for that short time.

Usually I agree with you Liz, but not on this. Anger is simply not an excuse. Roos acted inappropriately. He had a reason, sure, but not an excuse.

[stellation]

Like someone else said earlier ... I'd rather have a beer with Roosey!!

Well sure, if the guy answers his phone to organize it!

[Triple B]

Barry admits he was to blame but was extremely disappointed with the way Roos treated him in those few days.

Roos admits he handled it poorly in hindsight and wished he did it better.

Why is there an argument?

[Doctor J.]

Barry admits he was to blame but was extremely disappointed with the way Roos treated him in those few days.

Roos admits he handled it poorly in hindsight and wished he did it better.

Why is there an argument?

Its a R&WO thing.

[liz]

Usually I agree with you Liz, but not on this. Anger is simply not an excuse. Roos acted inappropriately. He had a reason, sure, but not an excuse.

Roos has frequently referred to how one of his coaching mantras was not to speak to players when angry (or otherwise emotional) because his experiences as a player had taught him that relationships had been ruined when this happened. Yes, he has said that he now wishes he had handled things differently, but that doesn't mean that his reaction at the time wasn't entirely understandable. It is probable he didn't speak to Hall in those first couple of days because he didn't know what he actually wanted to say to him, or he didn't trust himself not to say something he would later regret.

And of course it is Hall who keeps bringing back up (this time via a book) the fact that there were two days when they didn't speak as if this transgression was somehow on a par with his inability to stop hitting players on the field.

[BSA5]

Roos has frequently referred to how one of his coaching mantras was not to speak to players when angry (or otherwise emotional) because his experiences as a player had taught him that relationships had been ruined when this happened. Yes, he has said that he now wishes he had handled things differently, but that doesn't mean that his reaction at the time wasn't entirely understandable. It is probable he didn't speak to Hall in those first couple of days because he didn't know what he actually wanted to say to him, or he didn't trust himself not to say something he would later regret.

Yes, but he could have sent him a text or something. Could have said explained that he was angry and just didn't want to talk to him while in that state. Could have given him some sort of explanatin. It's Roos' job as a coach to communicate with his players. He should have figured something out.

And of course it is Hall who keeps bringing back up (this time via a book) the fact that there were two days when they didn't speak as if this transgression was somehow on a par with his inability to stop hitting players on the field.

Firstly, he has brought it up once, in his upcoming autobiography. It's the media that keep taking excerpts, not him.

Secondly, he has never suggested these transgressions were on a par with his inability to stop hitting players on the field. Don't know where you got that from.

[Go Swannies]

I think I was over Baz when I arrived late at ANZ and was told he'd clobbered someone again.

But there's legacy - the same reason I smile when I think of Nicky D, even though he annoyed me at the time for being a lazy sod. But Nick is now working with the club and has grown up to make a joke of how wayward he was. Baz is just losing stature with every petulant claim.

[Lucky Knickers]

It's Baz's book. It's ok with me that he tells the story through his eyes and how he felt at the time and now when retirement is upon him.
The beauty is that in spite of the tensions that may or may not have existed between various personalities, and let's face it that's life, in 2005 everyone focussed on the collective goal and bought home the cup.
In 2015 everyone will be basking in the memories of that perfect day and enjoying their contribution to bringing so much happiness to red and white people everywhere.
They are forever linked together holding that cup with HUGE SMILES. That is far bigger than both of them IMO.

[Cardinal]

All I know is when we needed a bustling forward the last couple of years Bazza was missing.

[swannielady]

Its a R&WO thing.

Just had to answer this one, pardon my indulgence but I just got off the phone from my ex who is a rabid Bulldogs supporter. He was discussing how disappointed he is in Jason Ackermanis (who he really likes) but Ackers is bagging the Dogs at any given opportunity. So my ex is not happy, so I went on to discuss my disappointment in BBB (who he also really likes). Now my ex would never come onto any footy forum cause he is a man of few words. Actually my whole family is disappointed in BBB and they do not even know RWO exists. Their main beef is about Roos, the club and supporters as well. We do not sit around wringing our hands about it, just does not sit well with some Swans supporters is all. I am done now lol.

[Legs Akimbo]

"Hally" is such a @@@@ing child. Seriously. It's about Hally isn't it. A little boy trapped in a man's body. "daddy, I've been naughty, but tell me it's alright, please daddy". Reality -he punched someone for the third time, Roos was not surprisingly pissed off and didn't return his calls for a few days. Hallcomes across as someone who has well and truly been over indulged.