SCG Redevelopment Stage 2: Noble, Bradman, Messenger

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  • erica
    Happy and I know it
    • Jan 2008
    • 1247

    SCG Redevelopment Stage 2: Noble, Bradman, Messenger

    Statement by Swans on SCG redevelopment: http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/n...0/default.aspx
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke
  • conradhc
    Red and White Drinker
    • Sep 2005
    • 45

    #2
    SCG Redevelopment Stage 2: Noble, Bradman, Messenger

    The Sydney Cricket and Sports Ground Trust announced this morning that Stage 2 of the SCG Redevelopment will begin in March this year and proceed through 2013. This involves a new stand ("pavilion") to replace the MA Noble, Bradman and Dally Messenger Stands.

    Andrew Ireland has stated that the Club is already in discussion with the Trust about the impact.

    I'm obviously excited about a new stand. We sit in the Messenger Stand and love the position, but don't like the through wind in winter! But I'm a little anxious as to where they are going to seat us in the meantime. We know at the moment that we have space around us where we can bring visitors (which is a definite possibility for 2012) but may not if we are relocated. Also, what will our viewing angle be like? I'd love to get somewhere similar at the end of the redevelopment.

    Also, the Stands being replaced are a mix of Members' Reserve (with the dress code that goes with it) and allocated seating. How will that work out in the new stand?
    Conrad

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    • R-1
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2005
      • 1042

      #3
      But if the Noble is knocked down, where will I sit!?

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      • Big Al
        Veterans List
        • Feb 2005
        • 7007

        #4
        I would imagine people affected will be moved to the Trumper Stand.
        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

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        • Doctor
          Bay 29
          • Sep 2003
          • 2757

          #5
          I just received an email from the club about it, so I'd imagine most RWOers will too. The club is supportive and is in discussions with the Trust about what it will mean for members. Considering we're their major tenant you'd hope that would be the case of course. I'd also hope we might have some influence over the naming of at least one of the grandstands.
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          • goswannie14
            Leadership Group
            • Sep 2005
            • 11166

            #6
            If there's one thing I hate, it's small minded sports administrators.

            "It's not about extra seats. If I had my way, it would be a smaller capacity," chairman Rodney Cavalier told ABC Radio on Tuesday.

            "The future of spectator sport is not in capacity but comfort for those who come.

            "That's the trend across the world, especially in North America."
            Surely you can have both!
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            • erica
              Happy and I know it
              • Jan 2008
              • 1247

              #7
              I don't think the statement sounded as if the Swans had been notified long ago. There's more to this story.
              All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                #8
                Originally posted by erica
                I don't think the statement sounded as if the Swans had been notified long ago. There's more to this story.
                I imagine it's the difference between statement of intent and the detail - you know, where the devil is.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • Big Al
                  Veterans List
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 7007

                  #9
                  Originally posted by erica
                  I don't think the statement sounded as if the Swans had been notified long ago. There's more to this story.
                  Scg Trust: "Hi Andrew, ready for the upcoming season?"
                  Andrew Ireland: "yep, we sure are"
                  Scg Trust: "That's great to hear"
                  Scg Trust: "oh yeah before I forget the NA Noble and Bradman Stands won't be there. Hope that's okay?
                  ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                  Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                  • erica
                    Happy and I know it
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1247

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Big Al
                    Scg Trust: "Hi Andrew, ready for the upcoming season?"
                    Andrew Ireland: "yep, we sure are"
                    Scg Trust: "That's great to hear"
                    Scg Trust: "oh yeah before I forget the NA Noble and Bradman Stands won't be there. Hope that's okay?
                    My thoughts exactly.
                    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                    • Bas
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 4457

                      #11
                      I do hope that the demolition dust doesn't waft over our canapes in the Brewongle. Champers and dust is just so GWS.

                      Great timing for Primmy and Wardy with your move to our wonderful stand.
                      In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                      • Bas
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4457

                        #12
                        Originally posted by erica
                        I don't think the statement sounded as if the Swans had been notified long ago. There's more to this story.
                        The redevelopment has been in planning for some time as I was talking to an SCG official after the player presentation (in the indoor cricket nets) aftermatch last year. They were saying that it was likely to start happening after the completion of the cricket season. They did say that they would move people across to the Trumper stand for the football.

                        I think the last thing the Swans wanted to do was to bring stress to their supporters over Christmas and New Year and thus the announcement today by the trust.
                        In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                        • desredandwhite
                          Click!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2498

                          #13
                          I think we always knew that the next stage of redevelopment was going to be the Noble/Bradman/Messenger stands - the only question would be "when". Well, now we know.

                          The Trumper didn't look super-full last season, so that is the logical place to temporarily house the residents of the members reserve and the Messenger stand/concourse people. They might have to do something funky like force the members reserve folk to accept reserved seating for a couple of years, as I don't think a mix of reserved and unreserved is going to work! From memory, the lower ladies is considered part of the members reserve so they might cap the members reserve numbers (ballot maybe?) and put the rest in reserved for the time being.

                          The interesting part is when they go to do the 3rd stage, which would take out the Churchill, BRewongle and O'Reilly stands - they are all categorised platinum.

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16763

                            #14
                            Originally posted by desredandwhite
                            The interesting part is when they go to do the 3rd stage, which would take out the Churchill, BRewongle and O'Reilly stands - they are all categorised platinum.
                            Surely they would do this in two stages? - sub-stages maybe. It doesn't make sense to be digging up both sides of the stadium at the same time.

                            I am actually a bit confused by all this because I thought it was already known that the Bradman/MA Noble would be out of action next season. Isn't that why some red-zone RWOers have already been shifting themselves over to the Brewongle?

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                            • conradhc
                              Red and White Drinker
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 45

                              #15
                              Originally posted by desredandwhite
                              The interesting part is when they go to do the 3rd stage, which would take out the Churchill, BRewongle and O'Reilly stands - they are all categorised platinum.
                              As far as I can tell from the information on the Trust's website, stage 3 is an upgrade/refurbishment of those three stands, so we're not necessarily going to see major building work and extended periods of mass unavailability.
                              Conrad

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