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  • swantastic
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2006
    • 7275

    Prayer Rooms at AFL venues??????????

    Should Muslim prayer rooms be introduced to AFL grounds...I say no your there to watch footy thats it
    Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

  • Big Al
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    • Feb 2005
    • 7007

    #2
    Muslims are required to pray five times each day: at dawn, midday, afternoon, sunset, and evening. Prayer rooms are common place in society so why not at footy grounds. It doesn't hurt anybody and it might attract more of our Islamic friends to the footy so it's a win-win.
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    • swantastic
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      • Jan 2006
      • 7275

      #3
      Originally posted by Big Al
      Muslims are required to pray five times each day: at dawn, midday, afternoon, sunset, and evening. Prayer rooms are common place in society so why not at footy grounds. It doesn't hurt anybody and it might attract more of our Islamic friends to the footy so it's a win-win.
      Not really a win win if we do that for them what about catholics,anglicans etc etc do we give a room to every religion.Fair enough they hav to pray 5 times its not guna kill em to miss a couple when their at the footy,you cnt please every 1.So IMO abide by our rules and regulations if they dnt like it dnt come to the footy
      Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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      • R-1
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2005
        • 1042

        #4
        I can't imagine why anyone would find this upsetting. It's literally just a small space set aside for the purpose.

        Originally posted by swantastic
        Not really a win win if we do that for them what about catholics,anglicans etc etc do we give a room to every religion.
        Uh, no. Not at all.

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        • Big Al
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          • Feb 2005
          • 7007

          #5
          Originally posted by swantastic
          Not really a win win if we do that for them what about catholics,anglicans etc etc do we give a room to every religion.Fair enough they hav to pray 5 times its not guna kill em to miss a couple when their at the footy,you cnt please every 1.So IMO abide by our rules and regulations if they dnt like it dnt come to the footy
          We are a secular society are we not??

          I'm not sure what the problem here is. Having a room hurts absolutely no one so I don't understand why anyone would be against it.

          We live in a free society so as long as you obey our laws then you are free to worship whoever you choose.
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          • Wardy
            The old Boiler!
            • Sep 2003
            • 6676

            #6
            Richmond accommodate Bacha Houli and he will bring more interest and supporters to the game from his community so to me it's not hurting anyone putting in a prayer room. It wasn't that long ago that players of catholic and proddy faiths wouldnt play on Sundays / times change and we have to move with the times. Would the question even br asked if we had an Islamic player on our list ? I doubt it.
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            • DamY
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2011
              • 1479

              #7
              respect should be shown to all peoples and their beliefs, as long as all parties are respectful about it. Maybe when you travel next time you'll appreciate when a "local" makes an effort to accommodate you by maybe speaking English or being considerate that you may not understand local customs.

              Islamophobia is common but I don't think it is a trait that the swans would preach.

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              • Melbourne_Blood
                Senior Player
                • May 2010
                • 3312

                #8
                The prayer rooms are for anyone use not specifically Muslims ( though I'm sure there probably the only faith that use them, then again I'm not too informed on the subject of religion ) . Id go down to offer my soul to JC or Buddha or whoever if we were down by a point at 3 qtr time in the granny. Seriously though I don't see the big deal, as long as know one is inconvenienced by the beliefs of others then it shouldn't be an issue. But if they ban hotdogs I might have a problem...

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                • Big Al
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                  • Feb 2005
                  • 7007

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                  The prayer rooms are for anyone use not specifically Muslims ( though I'm sure there probably the only faith that use them, then again I'm not too informed on the subject of religion ) . Id go down to offer my soul to JC or Buddha or whoever if we were down by a point at 3 qtr time in the granny. Seriously though I don't see the big deal, as long as know one is inconvenienced by the beliefs of others then it shouldn't be an issue. But if they ban hotdogs I might have a problem...


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                  • Wardy
                    The old Boiler!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 6676

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                    The prayer rooms are for anyone use not specifically Muslims ( though I'm sure there probably the only faith that use them, then again I'm not too informed on the subject of religion ) . Id go down to offer my soul to JC or Buddha or whoever if we were down by a point at 3 qtr time in the granny. Seriously though I don't see the big deal, as long as know one is inconvenienced by the beliefs of others then it shouldn't be an issue. But if they ban hotdogs I might have a problem...
                    very good:-)!
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                    • Triple B
                      Formerly 'BBB'
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6999

                      #11
                      When those hotdogs become halal dogs because normal hotdogs offend those who use the prayer room, what happens then?

                      IMO, if a 3 hour game interferes with your religion, then make a choice....
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                      • Melbourne_Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2010
                        • 3312

                        #12
                        That's when it gets tricky, and that's the kind of thing that does @@@@ me. Like the banning of Xmas decorations by councils and that sort of thing. This IMO is a PR stunt by the AFL that will probably have a minuscule impact on the number of Muslims that attend footy matches. I would think the % ( again I have no stats to back this up) of Muslims who actually pray 5 times a day in Australia wouldn't be all that high. Of all the Muslims I've worked with, went to school with, socialized with, I've never known any with that strict an interpretation of Islam. Im sure those that love footy and want to attend have found ways around the Prayer issue if they are the devout type. Bachar Houli himself said he prays before and after, not during the game. It's an AFL stunt, and at this stage it's not hurting anyone and I honestly think it will have close to zero impact on people's decision o attend the footy, the Muslims that do need to pray just have somewhere cleaner than a stairwell or carpark to do it.

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                        • Big Al
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 7007

                          #13
                          As I said above, as long the rooms don't hurt anyone there shouldn't be an issue.

                          However the political correctness around things like christmas is an entirely different issue. You'll find that the majority of Muslims cringe when these things happen. It usually emanates from non Muslim do-gooders trying to be morally superior to everyone else.
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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            #14
                            Imagine no religion.
                            I wonder if you can.


                            Seriously?
                            Do the scientologisits get a room?
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                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              Imagine no religion.
                              I wonder if you can.


                              Seriously?
                              Do the scientologisits get a room?
                              I like the scientologists. They're descendant from aliens.
                              I think I know a lot of these people.

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