Parker lifts Contested Possesion rate - Rnd 4 Stats 2012

[Beerman]

Is Parker now more important to us than Mumford?

That is a very big call. I would say no. We have more players who are similar to Parker than Mumford so although they are both good players, Mummy's a bit harder to replace.

[The_Jam]

Is Parker now more important to us than Mumford?

I will also say no.

Mumford is one of, if not the best, second effort ruckman in the comp. I believe last year he was at the pointy end for tapouts to advantage as well (does anyone know a site that has this stat?). While there is no one doubting that Parkers performances have been amazing, there is no argument that he is one of the best inside mids (unlike say JPK). Whereas there is a real argument to say that Mumford is one of the most effective ruckmen. Parker is 6 years younger, but youth does not mean much to me and certainly not when it will be a least 3 years, if not more, before Mummy?s age is even a consideration. So Mumford is the pick IMO.

(I know this is not the place, but whether JPK is more important than Mummy, is a difficult one to answer).

[Matimbo]

Actually, serious question here......

Do we think he has passed Hanners? In terms of abiltity, skill and importance to the side?

At the moment, yes. But I agree that Hanner's disrupted Pre-season has to be taken into account. What I'm really excited about is that with both of them plus JPK, we have the potential for 3/4 of of our own Fab 4 midfield. Need a 4th.

[liz]

At the moment, yes. But I agree that Hanner's disrupted Pre-season has to be taken into account. What I'm really excited about is that with both of them plus JPK, we have the potential for 3/4 of of our own Fab 4 midfield. Need a 4th.

I think we probably already have that in Jack. As a foursome they are still a fair way off the best midfield combos of the last decade or so but they all have potential to improve but are all already performing at a pretty reasonable level. They also complement each other pretty well because they are slightly different kinds of player.

When I sat down to watch a replay of the Roos game I realised just how well Jack played. He's not quite hit the heights of his best games at the end of 2012 but he is working up to that kind of form. I really liked how he used his pace out wide to pinch a few balls others thought were going out, and his quick punch kicks off one step are starting to become more prevalent.

[Nico]

I think we probably already have that in Jack. As a foursome they are still a fair way off the best midfield combos of the last decade or so but they all have potential to improve but are all already performing at a pretty reasonable level. They also complement each other pretty well because they are slightly different kinds of player.

When I sat down to watch a replay of the Roos game I realised just how well Jack played. He's not quite hit the heights of his best games at the end of 2012 but he is working up to that kind of form. I really liked how he used his pace out wide to pinch a few balls others thought were going out, and his quick punch kicks off one step are starting to become more prevalent.

Got my 2 vote. Has really learned the game and we must remember he carried an ankle injury for much of last season. Is getting where the ball is at. Whereas a lot of midfielders are going to ground at contests he is playing just off the game and keeping his feet. Appears to have gone from a flashy type to a smart work horse who runs to support in the backline, and plays the team game.

[Dosser]

Got my 2 vote. Has really learned the game and we must remember he carried an ankle injury for much of last season. Is getting where the ball is at. Whereas a lot of midfielders are going to ground at contests he is playing just off the game and keeping his feet. Appears to have gone from a flashy type to a smart work horse who runs to support in the backline, and plays the team game.

He actually got my 2 vote as well. I love his little jink that he does now when he has the ball - the number of times the norf players were wrong-footed by it on the weekend was great. He faded a little in the 2nd half but I think they put a harder tag on him. I'm hoping that this means he is getting back to his best this year.

[wolftone57]

I was excited just from the footage of his junior work. Then came his debut and he showed enough to that I could envisage what was to come. He has presence, coolness, skill and toughness. He was also ready made body wise.

[Bazman]

The boy's good!,The boy's good!, The boy's good! the boy is brilliant.

[wolftone57]

I will also say no.

Mumford is one of, if not the best, second effort ruckman in the comp. I believe last year he was at the pointy end for tapouts to advantage as well (does anyone know a site that has this stat?). While there is no one doubting that Parkers performances have been amazing, there is no argument that he is one of the best inside mids (unlike say JPK). Whereas there is a real argument to say that Mumford is one of the most effective ruckmen. Parker is 6 years younger, but youth does not mean much to me and certainly not when it will be a least 3 years, if not more, before Mummy?s age is even a consideration. So Mumford is the pick IMO.

(I know this is not the place, but whether JPK is more important than Mummy, is a difficult one to answer).

I don't understand why anyone would wish to compare them, one is a ruckman the other is an inside mid. They all have their value to the side in their own capacity, Parker can't do without Mummy and vica verca, the same goes for Joey. But I do think Joey will win the Brownlow!

[Auntie.Gerald]

Park Life !!!

its very difficult now for teams to work out who to match up on with our midfield rotations..........especially when we are generally marking them anyway for a split second before we win the ball anyway