Round 6 vs adelaide game day thread

[Xie Shan]

Brenton Sanderson gets his revenge for Nick Davis ending his career in 2005...

I thought the crows were very good tonight and our midfield wad beaten on the night. We did well to come back, and looked dangerous with Goodes at FF. Reid is struggling but I think we needed one extra tall. Encouraged by O'Keefe's return to goalkicking form, he was actually quite effective as a marking target. Kennedy wasn't able to bust packs as he usually does tonight, think that was a measure of the Crows' pressure. They used the ball extremely well. No disgrace losing to them at all, they are now 5-1 with us if I'm not wrong. As expected, the Tigers will be a tough test next week, but tonight hasn't changed my view that we can still finish top 4.

[gossipcom]

Any real clues as to the Goodes injury?

Looked like a hammy injury to me. Though might have been a soft tissue thigh injury. Because initially when he stopped even before he went to mark he felt at the front, but afterwards before Gibbs assessed him he was rubbing the back of his upper thigh (which usually indicates hammy or a cramp).

Jetta was outstanding tonight.

It was a frustrating game to be at, apart from the end result, we had a spectator collapse (and had CPR performed on them) behind where I sit in the Trumper Stand. So hoping all went well there, even though it didn't look good when I was leaving.

[Mike_B]

Disappointing loss but we were outplayed. The Crows used the ball much better and were able to hit leading forwards more than we were (although Goodes provided an excellent target till he went off). Reid struggled to get the space and delivery to make him effective. Where the Crows got the breaks in first and last quarters, they killed us at the stoppages.

Thought Jetta had his best game for the club tonight, and with a bounce of the ball going his way may have won it for us. Hanners worked hard to get into space, but still wastes it a little. ROK is getting back to his best and the engine room of JPK, Bolton, Jack, Parker were solid, but without quite the same impact as previous weeks.

I thought Seaby battled hard and with Mummy due back soon and Reid needing some support up forward with a tall target, he may have a role to play as Mummy gets back to full fitness up forward and relieving Mummy in the ruck.

Have to bounce back and make sure we aren't sloppy next week against the Tiges.

[Swans500]

Whew...wish you hadn't tempted fate with this one (Referring to Goodes).......however...we have already won quite a tough home game without him this year....

We'd be in serious trouble without him, what a player...

[wolftone57]

1. they smashed us early in the first. We were not getting our hands on it in the centre square and that included the ruck.

2. When we did manage to get it into our forward line we just bombed it in and they played a defensive zone across our goal. They used this to attack and run the ball out. Nobody seemed to wake up to this until half way through the second quarter.

3. They managed to open us up through the guts and along the fat side every time they ran the ball. We managed to cut quite a few of the forays off thank goodness or it could have been ugly.

4. We cannot continue to go into matches against sides who have two good ruckmen with LRT as second ruck. He was smashed tonight and the Crows got huge drive when he was in the ruck. They kicked several in a row when he was rucking. I like him standing the resting ruck as a defender not rucking against them.

5. McInnerney is one of the worst umpires in the AFL. There were at least three interference with the ball not within 5 metres, 2 from Petrenko & I actually think 2 from Walker. AJ got his head pulled off twice in a row on the wing & it is called play on? Are they really serious about head high or not?

6. Impressed with Jetts, Parker, Joey, Marty was good too. Mal actually played well after quarter time. Goodsie should play FF now. I hope the injury is only a strain. Kizza was good. Hannas never stopped trying and the defence was pretty good after quarter time.

7. Horse stuffed up the match ups, Sloane was on Macca and absolutely killing him in the first. Marty was as loose as hell when on Petrenko. Most of the match ups didn't work and it took him until half way through the second to sort it out. He was out-coached by Sanderson tonight.

8. We need help for Reid and it ain't LRT. He just doesn't do the things that help and a matter of fact half the time he just gets in the way.I can't wait to get Spang back. Jesse must come in! He should have played tonight.

9. The Crows are a very good team but they don't like other mongrel teams. We haven't got enough mongrel! They set up well and are very well coached and have two tall targets. Walker is a great kick from anywhere. I thought Tippett was beaten tonight. Every time we thought we had their forward line under control the bastard switched from a tall forward structure with McKernan or Jacobs resting to a small set up and ran the ball in. Petrenko, Sloane and Callinan all hurt us on the scoreboard tonight. Our goals came from too few tonight.

10. We actually do have players to come back but they are probably the best they are going to be. Their side tonight was their best side by quite a long way. We will get Mummy back and blood Mitchell. Spang will also be back. We need to pull a forward from the resies, someone who can manufacture a goal out of thin air. Jetts does it but essentially he is a winger who plays forward for a particular set up. The get and go!! Maybe we can try something out against the Tiges. TDL, Morton, Lamb etc and maybe Armstrong for another hit out.

I would be interested in seeing how Shane Biggs went today. If he went well I think he has the talent to come onto the main list seeing Gary Rohan is on the long term injury list. It is just a matter of seeing how he is developing. I like the fact he is a very good kick.

[Nolie]

Walker: awful hair, great kick.

He reminded me a lot tonight of, dare I say it, Tony Lockett. Mullett, great great kick. He will be a tough nut just like Lockett when he fills out a bit more. I was most impressed. The swans' first quarter was disappointing. They looked very complacent. Then had to quickly get their act together in the second. I didn't manage to see the last qaurter but they always seemed to be playing catch-up. One of the things I noticed was just some lack of co-ordination - eg two Swans players trying to get the ball and knocking it out of each others hands to the opposition. Lack of talk perhaps. McGlynn needs to do more, be more dangerous.

[wolftone57]

He reminded me a lot tonight of, dare I say it, Tony Lockett. Mullett, great great kick. He will be a tough nut just like Lockett when he fills out a bit more. I was most impressed. The swans' first quarter was disappointing. They looked very complacent. Then had to quickly get their act together in the second. I didn't manage to see the last qaurter but they always seemed to be playing catch-up. One of the things I noticed was just some lack of co-ordination - eg two Swans players trying to get the ball and knocking it out of each others hands to the opposition. Lack of talk perhaps. McGlynn needs to do more, be more dangerous.

Yes I saw the uncoordinated efforts too. But worse were the mistakes like Rhyce running the wrong way and AJ running the right and Rhyce decided to take the ball and cost us a goal as he fumbled it. Always the player going toward your goal takes the ball if he is in position to do so and the player running opposite shepherds or provides back up. Too much of the going the wrong way player wanting to take today & running into each other.

[mcs]

Disappointing loss but we were outplayed. The Crows used the ball much better and were able to hit leading forwards more than we were (although Goodes provided an excellent target till he went off). Reid struggled to get the space and delivery to make him effective. Where the Crows got the breaks in first and last quarters, they killed us at the stoppages.

Thought Jetta had his best game for the club tonight, and with a bounce of the ball going his way may have won it for us. Hanners worked hard to get into space, but still wastes it a little. ROK is getting back to his best and the engine room of JPK, Bolton, Jack, Parker were solid, but without quite the same impact as previous weeks.

I thought Seaby battled hard and with Mummy due back soon and Reid needing some support up forward with a tall target, he may have a role to play as Mummy gets back to full fitness up forward and relieving Mummy in the ruck.

Have to bounce back and make sure we aren't sloppy next week against the Tiges.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts about tonight as well. I am really disappointed we didn't manage to win it (another 15 seconds and we might have been cheering a great escape), but I thought the Crows were excellent tonight and we never really got a good hold of them.

But I thought we did so ever very well to hang on in there and dig ourselves back into the game, even when we were far from our best. That to me is the sign of a very good team - and was a trademark of the 05-06 team.

If goodesy had not got injured it may well have been very different - I have no doubt he would of marked that ball, and with the way he was kicking tonight would of probably slotted the goal. But those are the things that happen in footy - and while I'm tired and disappointed that we didn't win, I thought it was an excellent game of football between two very good up and coming sides and I did thoroughly enjoy it (not so much the long trip home though!).

How we respond next week against Witchmond will tell us a lot about the playing group and where it is at, as we need to get back on track and get a win down there. A disappointing evening, but we will bounce back from it and build on the experience. And one day, we will even beat bludy Adelaide again

[mcs]

@@@@ the crows. Once again we outplay them for the majority of the match, they kick easy anf flukey goals and they win.

They seem to use up a whole year of luck everytime we play.

Very true, but that's footy. They certainly kicked very well from the set shot tonight, it must be said. But one day we'll get the buggers - hopefully on a big stage so we can get proper revenge. Fair play to Adelaide though, they played well and are a good team in the making.

[stellation]

It was a tough final quarter to sit through, I thought the team did well to get back to where they did- part way through the first Adelaide really were on top of things. I thought that the coaches did well to adjust to Adelaide,

On the backup ruck, if the coaches really do not think that much on the importance of the backup ruck position and are happy to sacrifice ruckwork for versatility then they really need to think again; down late in the fourth in a close game, glancing across and seeing the number 1 ruckman stranded on the bench whilst the backup seemed unable to get his hands to the ball at multiple stoppages- it did feel like the Crows managed to suck a lot of time out of the game there.

[Mike_B]

On the backup ruck, if the coaches really do not think that much on the importance of the backup ruck position and are happy to sacrifice ruckwork for versatility then they really need to think again; down late in the fourth in a close game, glancing across and seeing the number 1 ruckman stranded on the bench whilst the backup seemed unable to get his hands to the ball at multiple stoppages- it did feel like the Crows managed to suck a lot of time out of the game there.

Agree = this is where I think we should retain Seaby when Mummy is back to give us an extra forward option plus two specialist rucks. I think the hitouts were something like 70-30 to the Crows and while the clearances matter much more than the hitouts, it certainly made things harder, especially when we were struggling to get clean ball out of the middle.

[Gary]

Kennedy / McGlynn...interesting to reflect on which looked the better buy year one compared to now. Benny still useful but not in our best. Kennedy great though Dangerfield touched him up at times last night. He still did a good job. Neither JPK or Benny had a reputation for kicking & that is still evident at times...but JPK is kicking better, certainly more reliable in front of goals than Benny these days.
Perhaps that West Coast knock took the edge of McGlynn.

[stellation]

Agree = this is where I think we should retain Seaby when Mummy is back to give us an extra forward option plus two specialist rucks. I think the hitouts were something like 70-30 to the Crows and while the clearances matter much more than the hitouts, it certainly made things harder, especially when we were struggling to get clean ball out of the middle.

I think the idea has merit, and I'm sure the coaching staff will give it consideration when Mummy comes back. I know it hasn't worked smashingly in the past, but I don't mind the idea of keeping Mark in the team for the first couple of weeks when Shane comes back purely so the guy doesn't go from a month (or whatever it ends up being) off straight into playing 80% game time- apart from risk of injury you'd have to assume the guy would fade late in games (understandably).

If Mark stayed in it serves a purpose of allowing Mummy to go 60% then 70% over 2 weeks to work his way up to fitness, and gives us a chance to see if it works for us. Obviously depends on the opponents etc. etc.

[Mike_B]

I think the idea has merit, and I'm sure the coaching staff will give it consideration when Mummy comes back. I know it hasn't worked smashingly in the past, but I don't mind the idea of keeping Mark in the team for the first couple of weeks when Shane comes back purely so the guy doesn't go from a month (or whatever it ends up being) off straight into playing 80% game time- apart from risk of injury you'd have to assume the guy would fade late in games (understandably).

If Mark stayed in it serves a purpose of allowing Mummy to go 60% then 70% over 2 weeks to work his way up to fitness, and gives us a chance to see if it works for us. Obviously depends on the opponents etc. etc.

Yeah that was my thinking, not necessarily a permanent twosome, but at least while Mummy gets some match fitness under his belt, we need to have another specialist ruckman on the ground and Seaby has shown he can play forward as well.

[Primmy]

I kept saying to myself "Swans had the wood over Brisbane even when they were a 3peat". oh well....coulda been worse.