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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    #16
    I hate these posts that say we owe a belting!!! Last week it was the Crows & they won didn't they! Even though it was close! Bloody stop it!!! Get serious about looking for solutions to our Forward problems!

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    • swansprincess
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2011
      • 306

      #17
      Originally posted by wolftone57
      I hate these posts that say we owe a belting!!! Last week it was the Crows & they won didn't they! Even though it was close! Bloody stop it!!! Get serious about looking for solutions to our Forward problems!
      Why not post about owing belting's? We can get as serious as we want about finding solutions to problems with the forward line, but it makes no difference. The coaches don't read our suggestions, they make their own calls on who plays and how.

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      • DamY
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1479

        #18
        I think what wolftone is saying is that the competition is very even and we can't just pencil in wins against sides that we should or deserve to win against. Adelaide was a shock personally but at the end of the day, they played better than we did. It will be the same story this weekend as well. Richmond will be a challenge. Do we owe them a belting? No. Swans need to focus on their own game and matching what Richmond serves up. Saying we owe someone a belting sounds a bit pretentious.

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #19
          Originally posted by DamY
          ....sounds a bit pretentious.
          Pretentious? Moi?
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #20
            We only just lost an excellent contested game against the Crows.
            Hats off to the Crows, they played some great footy..... but so did we....
            I predict, if we play with the same intensity and pressure as yesterday, we'll comfortably account for the Tigers.
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • DeadlyAkkuret
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2006
              • 4547

              #21
              I'm no more worried about Richmond than I am about any other side. It's not like they're better than us and I'm quite confident we'll have our 2nd biggest win of the year on Saturday.

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              • ShockOfHair
                One Man Out
                • Dec 2007
                • 3668

                #22
                It was a great contest from two teams right on their game last night. You can bet your house the Swans and the Crows will be in the top five this year.

                We have a lousy record at the G and not a great recent one against Tiges. The last two games against them at the G they've won.

                Ernie's right -we play liked we've played the last few weeks we will account for them.
                The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16778

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ernie koala
                  We only just lost an excellent contested game against the Crows.
                  Hats off to the Crows, they played some great footy..... but so did we....
                  I predict, if we play with the same intensity and pressure as yesterday, we'll comfortably account for the Tigers.
                  Some sanity at last. We didn't win, but we played pretty well in spurts. Losing Goodes will hurt (assuming he needs a rest) but I think the midfield is good enough to make up for that if the boys are switched on. At least the Tigers' form and our recent MCG form will mean they won't go in in the least bit complacent.

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                  • Dosser
                    Just wild about Harry
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1833

                    #24
                    Originally posted by liz
                    Some sanity at last. We didn't win, but we played pretty well in spurts. Losing Goodes will hurt (assuming he needs a rest) but I think the midfield is good enough to make up for that if the boys are switched on. At least the Tigers' form and our recent MCG form will mean they won't go in in the least bit complacent.
                    I'm not as worried losing Goodes from the midfield, I am more concerned that we are losing our far-and-away best forward in a dysfunctional forward line. I cant see who will kick a bag for us.

                    And I didnt see the Tigers' game yesterday, but am I correct in hearing that jumping Jack was back to his best? If that is the case it is a worry because it was his marking at the G last year that killed us. I was right there in the stands at the pocket and his body work was exceptional. I smell trouble.

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                    • gumby_bolts
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 255

                      #25
                      If you look at the team stats, this on paper looks like a team the Swans should easily account for.

                      Avg contested pos: Swans equal 1st; Tigers equal 16th
                      Clearances: Swans Equal 1st ; Tigers 15th
                      Tackles: Swans 2nd; Tigers 13th

                      Only big concern is the Swans record at the MCG. Yeah I know stats aren't everything but for me this weekend will be more about how we use the ball going in to the F50, we 'should' be able to win the middle. Hopefully White/TDL/Pyke/Morton (in that order) get a crack.

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                      • aardvark
                        Veterans List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5685

                        #26
                        Originally posted by gumby_bolts
                        Avg contested pos: Swans equal 1st; Tigers equal 16th
                        Clearances: Swans Equal 1st ; Tigers 15th
                        Tackles: Swans 2nd; Tigers 13th
                        Games unexpectedly lost to Richmond; Swans 1st

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                        • Triple B
                          Formerly 'BBB'
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 6999

                          #27
                          Originally posted by aardvark
                          Games unexpectedly lost to Richmond; Swans 1st
                          Sadly true....lol

                          I think getting beaten on Sat night should have a positive influence on our chances this Saturday. Had we got out of gaol the other night we may well have had a letdown this week. Should be hungrier now...
                          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                          • gumby_bolts
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 255

                            #28
                            Originally posted by aardvark
                            Games unexpectedly lost to Richmond; Swans 1st
                            nice one.

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                            • GongSwan
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1362

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Triple B
                              Sadly true....lol

                              I think getting beaten on Sat night should have a positive influence on our chances this Saturday. Had we got out of gaol the other night we may well have had a letdown this week. Should be hungrier now...
                              Hopefully the boys respond by actually wearing their boots in the first quarter instead of their slippers
                              You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                              • ugg
                                Can you feel it?
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15970

                                #30
                                Originally posted by gumby_bolts
                                If you look at the team stats, this on paper looks like a team the Swans should easily account for.

                                Avg contested pos: Swans equal 1st; Tigers equal 16th
                                Clearances: Swans Equal 1st ; Tigers 15th
                                Tackles: Swans 2nd; Tigers 13th

                                Only big concern is the Swans record at the MCG. Yeah I know stats aren't everything but for me this weekend will be more about how we use the ball going in to the F50, we 'should' be able to win the middle. Hopefully White/TDL/Pyke/Morton (in that order) get a crack.
                                A lot of commentators and pundits like to use the clearances stats to show what a great contested ball side we are but the main reason we are always high in that stat over the Roos-Longmire era is that we attend the most ruck contests of any side in the league. If you rank the league on the clearances percentage rate, (clearances / ruck contests) you'll find we're just slightly better than average.

                                There is a similar degree of verisimilitude with the tackles stat too - we're high up there but we also average the highest tackles against (1st or 2nd) in the league too. It's just a reflection of the contested style of football we play. A more relevant stat would be tackle completion rate but I don't think the public has access to that stat.

                                Unfortunately I can't poke any holes in the MCG stat
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