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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    #16
    Originally posted by swansprincess
    In: Spang, Nipper
    Out: LRT, Parker
    Is this the "pick a player to dump" thread? Great idea to take LRT out - then Sam can shoulder the load as FF (against Fletcher) with The Strut, a guy that hasn't played a game this year. And even better idea to dump The Moose to give Mummy a chance to ruck his second game back all alone - it's time for him to toughen up anyway.

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    • Go Swannies
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      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #17
      And how much cleaner did we look in disposals without Mal turning it over? It certainly turned the spotlight on Macca's dubious effectiveness (though he looked better on TV in replay than he did at the ground).

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      • Ruck'n'Roll
        Ego alta, ergo ictus
        • Nov 2003
        • 3990

        #18
        Originally posted by longmile
        Out: Parker (inj)
        In: Spanger
        Would this be a plausible swap?
        Don't think so, I agree with the koala, we'll need a smaller replacement. Especially as Zaharakis, Jetta, Davey etal will try to run is off our feet. So if we bring in Spanky it'll need to be at the expense of a tall, LRT or Moose?
        PS
        It is so weired to to come to work on Monday morning and not find the changes thread at only two pages. I guess the weekends flat track bullying has satified the mouth-frothers.

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        • Plugger46
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2003
          • 3674

          #19
          Hope they don't bring Malceski back. Can't kick like he used to and he's obviously very limited defensively.
          Bloods

          "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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          • swansprincess
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2011
            • 306

            #20
            Originally posted by Go Swannies
            Is this the "pick a player to dump" thread? Great idea to take LRT out - then Sam can shoulder the load as FF (against Fletcher) with The Strut, a guy that hasn't played a game this year. And even better idea to dump The Moose to give Mummy a chance to ruck his second game back all alone - it's time for him to toughen up anyway.
            Sorry for having a goddamn opinion.
            Spangher, IN MY OPINION, offers more up forward that LRT ever could. The forward line is where the game is won. And bringing in Spang will not mean Sam has to 'shoulder the load' as you put it. Have you forgotten TDL, McGlynn, O'Keefe etc. Pyke is also capable of swinging forward as well as playing ruck and is far more athletic than LRT.
            My SUGGESTIONS are not about who to 'dump', but rather about having the best team to take on the bombers. LRT played well on the w.e, but as I said I think Spang offers more and he deserves a chance to show his worth as well.

            Your reasoning is also off, saying 'dump the moose' and mummy needs to do it alone. Mumford hasn't played a game since round 2, it's not fair to put the load solely on him yet, but Sam has been in every game (regardless of whether he actually 'plays') and of anyone needs to toughen up, it's clearly him.

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            • Plugger46
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2003
              • 3674

              #21
              LRT competed and presented well. However, he had 7 possessions in a 15 goal smashing - I doubt he's the answer up forward against quality opposition.
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              • Captain
                Captain of the Side
                • Feb 2004
                • 3602

                #22
                Wow. There is still LRT bashing after the game he played yesterday.

                RWO is unbelievable.

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                • Go Swannies
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5697

                  #23
                  Originally posted by swansprincess
                  Sorry for having a goddamn opinion.
                  Spangher, IN MY OPINION, offers more up forward that LRT ever could. The forward line is where the game is won. And bringing in Spang will not mean Sam has to 'shoulder the load' as you put it. Have you forgotten TDL, McGlynn, O'Keefe etc. Pyke is also capable of swinging forward as well as playing ruck and is far more athletic than LRT.
                  My SUGGESTIONS are not about who to 'dump', but rather about having the best team to take on the bombers. LRT played well on the w.e, but as I said I think Spang offers more and he deserves a chance to show his worth as well.

                  Your reasoning is also off, saying 'dump the moose' and mummy needs to do it alone. Mumford hasn't played a game since round 2, it's not fair to put the load solely on him yet, but Sam has been in every game (regardless of whether he actually 'plays') and of anyone needs to toughen up, it's clearly him.
                  If I sounded offhand it's because I get tired of people suggesting changes that just won't happen. I'd seriously be quite glad if Macca had a game off (and you can go back to speeding Annie) but it won't happen - at least not until he's playing as badly as Mal. (And what are the chance the swap this week is Mal for Parker?) LRT would have to play much worse than he did yesterday for about a month before he's dropped (was this his first game without jaw protection?) so why even suggest it? LRT - 2 goals, 2 goal assists, 71% efficiency from one of our most experienced players. It would make more sense to drop Reid for Spang but that won't happen either for different reasons. The selectors look at overall structure and the long term a lot more than we do. If we drop a tall for a tall I suspect it'll be the Moose with Spang relief rucking and Mummy moving up to do more than 50% of the rucking this week - and Mike can justifiably feel hard done by. But there's a good chance they'll all get another chance with just a straight replacement brought in for Parker.

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                  • swansprincess
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 306

                    #24
                    We're making exactly the same points but for two different people. You say LRT shouldn't be dropped because he played well, but Pyke played a great game also, why should he be the one to go?
                    I'm saying that Spang should come in for LRT because I think it would help win us the game against the dons. Stranger things have happened, so I guess it's just a wait and see.

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                    • swansprincess
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                      • Jun 2011
                      • 306

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Captain
                      Wow. There is still LRT bashing after the game he played yesterday.

                      RWO is unbelievable.
                      No one is 'bashing' LRT. Everyone agrees he played a great game, BUT there are better options than him to be considered for next week.

                      And as plugger pointed out: "LRT competed and presented well. However, he had 7 possessions in a 15 goal smashing - I doubt he's the answer up forward against quality opposition."

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                      • Lucky Knickers
                        Fandom of Fabulousness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4220

                        #26
                        Reading the reserves tweets I went into the seniors thinking Spang definitely in for LRT, however, I think LRT had his best game of the year.
                        Both of them attack the ball pretty fearlessly so a bit of a toss up.

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                        • Plugger46
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 3674

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Wow. There is still LRT bashing after the game he played yesterday.

                          RWO is unbelievable.
                          Bashing? I know you love him but talk about sensitive.

                          I said he competed well. He was good. I thought the 'Dogs were woeful and I questioned whether LRT's going to be the answer up forward against the better teams. What's the problem with that?
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                          • ernie koala
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 3251

                            #28
                            As I said earlier, I reckon we need a replacement in the small to medium category, chances are, whom ever it is, they'll be in the lurid green vest.
                            So I'd like to see Nipper, who has some versatility, given a go. He's been consistent in the 2's, he's been on the list for a while now...
                            It's time to see if he is ever going to make it at AFL level.
                            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                            • Go Swannies
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 5697

                              #29
                              Originally posted by swansprincess
                              We're making exactly the same points but for two different people. You say LRT shouldn't be dropped because he played well, but Pyke played a great game also, why should he be the one to go?
                              I'm saying that Spang should come in for LRT because I think it would help win us the game against the dons. Stranger things have happened, so I guess it's just a wait and see.
                              Pyke vs LRT - one is considered an essential part of the team, the other isn't. Simple. And most know I'd love the Moose to be a big part of our team as we move forward - and I really hope he plays this weekend, even if it means we don't get the immediate joy of The Strut - at least we'd be better in the ruck. It's a trade-off.

                              Spang vs LRT - surely the best chance of winning would be to drop Reid for Spang and have LRT and Spang as our two tall forwards. Do you expect that to happen? I don't, for the same reason I don't expect LRT to be dropped. LRT being fit and on the ground and Reid eventually stepping up are seen as our best chances to progress well in 2012 and into 2013 (hopefully as defending premiers with Reid our top goal scorer).

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                              • ernie koala
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2007
                                • 3251

                                #30
                                I thought Reid moved and jumped better yesterday than he has for a while. I get the feeling he's not far away from some good form.
                                I also liked seeing him up on the wing a bit yesterday, I hope they continue that ploy...and suspect they will, while we have Mummy, Pyke and LTR/Spangher(for the sake of an argument) in the team together.
                                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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