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  • Untamed Snark
    Senior Player
    • Feb 2011
    • 1375

    Lloyd's review

    Up front, a Goodes view
    Chillin' with the strange Quarks
  • Cheer_Cheer
    Regular in the Side
    • Jul 2009
    • 739

    #2
    A surprisingly accurate report.. Did he have a ghostwriter ?

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    • BillyRayCypress
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2012
      • 1379

      #3
      Originally posted by Cheer_Cheer
      A surprisingly accurate report.. Did he have a ghostwriter ?
      Is the Pope Catholic?
      Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #4
        They key to winning a grand final at the MCG is to meet a non-victorian team there.

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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #5
          Originally posted by barry
          They key to winning a grand final at the MCG is to meet a non-victorian team there.
          Like Adelaide?
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • Plugger1300
            Warming the Bench
            • Feb 2010
            • 310

            #6
            Originally posted by Cheer_Cheer
            A surprisingly accurate report.. Did he have a ghostwriter ?
            I actually went to the same school (St.Bernards Judes school) as Matty and he scored very well in English for VCE (not sure it was not without help) so i wouldn't have thought he would need a ghost writer. Hard to tell when you see him umming and ahhing on TV.

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            • Beerman
              Regular in the Side
              • Oct 2010
              • 823

              #7
              Not a bad article. Not sure we really have the forward class to go all the way, but Reid is improving from week to week and if Goodes plays well we are as good a chance as most.

              Longmire has definitely changed the way we play but these types of article rarely give credit to Roos, who after all was the one who recruited Rohan and Jetta. I think he recognized that we needed more run and carry and was laying the foundations for the next assault on the flag.

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              • BillyRayCypress
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2012
                • 1379

                #8
                Originally posted by Beerman
                but these types of article rarely give credit to Roos, who after all was the one who recruited Rohan and Jetta. I think he recognized that we needed more run and carry and was laying the foundations for the next assault on the flag.
                Did he? I thought that was the role of the recruiting team. How much specific input did he have. He recruited Lyons.
                Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                • GongSwan
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1362

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beerman
                  Not a bad article. Not sure we really have the forward class to go all the way, but Reid is improving from week to week and if Goodes plays well we are as good a chance as most.

                  Longmire has definitely changed the way we play but these types of article rarely give credit to Roos, who after all was the one who recruited Rohan and Jetta. I think he recognized that we needed more run and carry and was laying the foundations for the next assault on the flag.
                  Very good point about Roos, it's almost like he could see the game a few years ahead and recruited accordingly, of course without Kinnear we might have stumbled. Goodes can only get better the more he plays, the older u get the longer it takes to wind up and with Parks to come back in, we just need to keep healthy and we're a chance
                  You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8166

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GongSwan
                    Very good point about Roos, it's almost like he could see the game a few years ahead and recruited accordingly, of course without Kinnear we might have stumbled. Goodes can only get better the more he plays, the older u get the longer it takes to wind up and with Parks to come back in, we just need to keep healthy and we're a chance
                    If the footy gods smile on us as they have so far (relatively anyway) in terms of injuries, then I am convinced we are as good a chance as anyone to win the thing. I'm finding it hard to stay calm and not get excited. Footy is such a cruel game and we are a long, long way from the finish line, but at the moment we look as good as anyone to be the last team standing!
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • Beerman
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 823

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beerman
                      Longmire has definitely changed the way we play but these types of article rarely give credit to Roos, who after all was the one who recruited Rohan and Jetta. I think he recognized that we needed more run and carry and was laying the foundations for the next assault on the flag.
                      Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
                      Did he? I thought that was the role of the recruiting team. How much specific input did he have. He recruited Lyons.
                      I don't know how much direct input he had, but he was head coach so he can take the credit (and blame) for decisions on his watch. I imagine he would give The go-ahead on these decisions. Who knows? It might have been Longmire or Beatson who pushed it through and he only went with it because he knew he would be going. Longmire is certainly on the record as happy to take credit for spotting every good player on our list :-)

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                      • hot potato
                        Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1122

                        #12
                        That's a very complimentary read about the boys by Lloydy. For what its worth I reckon Longmire has developed a mental toughness about the group as well improved their skill level dramatically (better than the 2005 n 2006 group).
                        "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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                        • DeadlyAkkuret
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 4547

                          #13
                          Tough question here. If Longmire takes us to a flag, will he be considered a better coach than Paul Roos? In my opinion the media will see him as better because we're more direct under Longmire.

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                          • DLBIA14
                            On the Rookie List
                            • May 2010
                            • 673

                            #14
                            Both had adversity, but Roos perhaps will be remembered more fondly. He really did make this team something special; a team that you can find pride in supporting, a team that is widely respected. That's rare let me assure you. Being a supporter of another team in another code that has given me that much trauma, false hope, disappointment and embarrassment in the same time that the Swans have given me a premiership, a bag of finals appearances and most importantly, a collection of young men who have quite adequately represented their forebearers and most passionate supporters - it has really taught me to value the nature of this club and the people within it.

                            John, if he does snatch a premiership this year, will be lauded widely for the achievement and for his ability to breathe life into our team and our gameplan. However he will have to do quite a bit more if he want to reach the mythical heights of the 'Sundance Kid' Roos.

                            I do like him though and always have. They may be others on this board who'll have a bit of egg on their face for lambasting him in his first season given his stellar work this year. Patience is a virtue people.

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                            • GongSwan
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1362

                              #15
                              I think any coach takes time to build a group and develop a game plan into the playing group. I believe we can thank the seamless transition from Roos to LOngmire, and the long apprenticeship Horse served, which made it possible for Roos to go to the bench to coach, because he had a capable senior coach in the box, and knew it. Compare Roos to Ratten on teh sideline, it's a no contest, probably because ratten doesn't have the kind of backup Roos had
                              You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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