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  • DA_Swan
    Warming the Bench
    • Feb 2010
    • 322

    Disappointing to lose when we had a good run with the umpires - skills fell down in the conditions which were tough for both sides - the positive was the opportunities we created

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    • Cheer Squad
      Sydney Swans
      • Apr 2007
      • 1948

      Originally posted by Q...
      I disagree. I believe we are more likely to beat Hawthorn, Collingwood and the Crows at the MCG than homebush...
      How on earth could you say that?

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      • Bloody Hell
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2006
        • 3085

        Originally posted by longmile
        How can we have an attacking forward line when they're trained so much to be defensive? Just a question. We lost the skills and natural flair of Davis, TDL and others to this one eyed approach in my opinion.
        I agree with this. TDL had 7 tackles at halftime, which I think was match leading but didn't add to it in the second half.

        Let him kick goals as his No. 1 priority. He's been trained that his No.1 priority is defensive pressure and kicking goals is a bonus. It's OK with Reid and Rohan in the team, but there has to be flexibility when the forward line isn't working.
        The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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        • crackedactor
          Regular in the Side
          • May 2012
          • 919

          Originally posted by barry
          Surely TDL's chances are up. Banished to the reserves for the rest of the year.

          Selections must be questioned. Why have a disfunctional forward line while Morton, Spranger and even White arent getting a look.
          Personally speaking I was really disappointed in some of TDL chases tonight. Seem only half-hearted, if at all. One stage in the 3rd quarter, if he bothered chasing, he would have got a free kick about 30 meters out. maybe time to give someone a go. Morton I have been told, does not chase his opponents either. Not too disappointed tonight. We looked flat last week and 6 day break was not enough. Loved Pkye and Parker's work out there tonight, Not sure if Goodsey is not 100% or father time is catching up with him. I thought Jolly clearly beat Mumford in the hit out department.

          Though Mummys work around the ground was not bad.

          I think we can play a lot better than that.

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          • BillyRayCypress
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2012
            • 1379

            Well for those of you complaining here, you shoiuld have been at the ground and dealt with the cold, wind and rain. Wasn't that a 70's group?

            The Pies kicked 12 goals, 7 of those from our turnovers. End of story.

            Up until that last quarter, it felt to me like we would win but I don't think you can blame a single person. Goodes missed but Pyke handballed when he should have kicked at goal etc etc.

            The only funny bit was when the ground announcer said that LRT had been subbed when he was standing in the goal square. Poor chap got his hyphen's confused.

            Cameron Mooney said recently that the Cats prefered to lose a game just before the finals so this was the loss we had to have.

            I'd give Big Ted the B & F now.
            Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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            • Swanner
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2006
              • 186

              Simply lost our nerve. What was Kennedy thinking turning blind and kicking to the three pies. Pies didn't win we lost it, reminds me of the first half of the Hawks final last year -we went to water under pressure. Hope they are embarrassed and come out fighting and learn a very valuable lesson.

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              • DA_Swan
                Warming the Bench
                • Feb 2010
                • 322

                I thought TDL looked hesitant tonight when he had the ball under pressure and it is the tackles you miss that count not the ones you are expected to make an dchase down - Goodes has the same problem with his lack of defensive pressure

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                • Q...
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 237

                  Originally posted by Cheer Squad
                  How on earth could you say that?
                  That's due to my ability to say stuff...

                  If you're asking why I believe that, it's because, based on my experience I would be more confident in a win at the G, Football Park, or Subiaco to Homebush...

                  I know the money wants Hombush for the large number of Pies fans, but if you want a stint of losing to discontinue it's possible that you need to make those fans miss a seat. I know it's off topic, but, if you were to make a pies game at the SCG and not let any pies supporters in, it would be a capacity crowd and we'd enjoy all the advantages...

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                  • Steve
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 676

                    Probably a reality check in many ways - our last win against a good side was in Rd 5 (West Coast were significantly undermanned so I don't think that counts). If we'd won by 2-3 goals it possibly wallpapers over cracks that need addressing, so better to face up to them now.

                    In the end we probably paid Collingwood too much respect, even with fewer I50's they have players who are actually dangerous forwards, and were able to also keep a forward structure.

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                    • aardvark
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5685

                      We're still on top, we were due for a bad one, bring on the dogs.

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                      • Q...
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 237

                        Originally posted by longmile
                        How can we have an attacking forward line when they're trained so much to be defensive? Just a question. We lost the skills and natural flair of Davis, TDL and others to this one eyed approach in my opinion.
                        The idea of an egocentric goals-are-my-gift notion of a forward are gone. It seems to me that they are being trained to undertand that defense exists and, when you don't have the ball, is equally as important as finding space and being miraculous. TDL hasn't quite found the balance yet but note Jetta's change over the years (all be it not that many). I love to watch Jetta's run, the places he puts himself and I am no longer scared when the opposition has the ball around him. TDL has great forward smarts and can tackle well. He needs to make his brain think the two are as valuable as each other. I think he'll get there if given the chance...

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                        • Q...
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 237

                          Originally posted by aardvark
                          We're still on top, we were due for a bad one, bring on the dogs.
                          This "due" business I don't get, but if that was a bad one then we're in...

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                          • swans
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 103

                            [QUOTE=DA_Swan;583461]I thought TDL looked hesitant tonight when he had the ball under pressure and it is the tackles you miss that count not the ones you are expected to make an dchase down - Goodes has the same problem with his lack of defensive .

                            Maybe it time to play some of the forwards we have like spanger/ walsh or mortan or all three would be better then what we had tonight. we must be the only side in the 8 that has no big forwad

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                            • Margie
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 800

                              Collingwood always seem more polished and structured than us. And having two tall marking forwards is an enormous bonus. We need to get our own forward line sorted out before we tackle Geelong and Hawthorn or we're doomed.

                              Defence was good again tonight, especially Ted. Some of our misses right in front of goal were heartbreakers.

                              Our annual loss against the Pies at the concrete jungle - seems almost inevitable now.

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                              • Q...
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 237

                                Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
                                Well for those of you complaining here, you shoiuld have been at the ground and dealt with the cold, wind and rain. Wasn't that a 70's group?

                                The Pies kicked 12 goals, 7 of those from our turnovers. End of story.

                                Up until that last quarter, it felt to me like we would win but I don't think you can blame a single person. Goodes missed but Pyke handballed when he should have kicked at goal etc etc.

                                The only funny bit was when the ground announcer said that LRT had been subbed when he was standing in the goal square. Poor chap got his hyphen's confused.

                                Cameron Mooney said recently that the Cats prefered to lose a game just before the finals so this was the loss we had to have.

                                I'd give Big Ted the B & F now.
                                +10

                                We've got the best run home. With our position on the ladder we're going well, but we get to face the Pies, Hawks and Cats just before the finals. Win or lose we can learn alot...

                                Ted is definitely Super...

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