Is the 2012 team as good as 2005's

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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #16
    One thing we lack in 2012 is a top level tagger. Bird usually gets the job, but is a bit slow. Other than that Jack or mcVeigh, but they arent in the class of Kirk or Matthews as shut-downers.

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      #17
      Originally posted by barry
      One thing we lack in 2012 is a top level tagger. Bird usually gets the job, but is a bit slow. Other than that Jack or mcVeigh, but they arent in the class of Kirk or Matthews as shut-downers.
      Spot on.

      In 2005 we had Mathews, Bevan, Kirk, Crouch, Ablett and Dempster as defensive/shut down players.

      Now we have Smith for the small forwards and no one for the mids except Bird, who I don't particularly rate as a shut down player.

      Hopefully we are not a Mathews short of a premiership

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #18
        Originally posted by CJK
        Goodes?
        Too unaccountable.

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        • Industrial Fan
          Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
          • Aug 2006
          • 3318

          #19
          Originally posted by CJK
          Goodes?
          Kennedy would take 05 Goodes, B2 would take 2012 Goodes.
          He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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          • Dirtyburt
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Apr 2012
            • 853

            #20
            Originally posted by Captain
            Who would we actually have to play on Goodes?
            TDL?

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              #21
              Would 2005 LRT play on 2012 LRT?

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              • Beerman
                Regular in the Side
                • Oct 2010
                • 823

                #22
                Originally posted by ScottH
                Would 2005 LRT play on 2012 LRT?
                That is a match-up I would love to see!

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  #23
                  2005 Premiership team
                  2012 which played footscray last week.



                  B: Jared Crouch -- Leo Barry -- Lewis Roberts-Thomson

                  F: Craig Bird -- Sam Reid -- Adam Goodes


                  HB: Ben Mathews -- Craig Bolton -- Tadhg Kennelly

                  HF: Dan Hannebery -- LRT -- Ryan Okeefe


                  C: Sean Dempster -- Adam Goodes -- Amon Buchanan

                  C: Lewis Jetta -- Jarrad McVeigh -- Ben McGlynn


                  HF: Ryan O'Keefe -- Barry Hall (c) -- Jude Bolton

                  HB: Marty Matner -- Ted Richards -- Nick Smith


                  F: Paul Williams -- Michael O'Loughlin -- Nick Davis

                  B: Alex Johnson -- Health Grundy -- Rhyce Shaw


                  Foll: Darren Jolly -- Brett Kirk -- Luke Ablett

                  Foll: Mumford -- Josh Kennedy -- Kieran Jack


                  Int: Jason Ball -- Paul Bevan -- Adam Schneider -- Nic Fosdike

                  Int: Mike Pyke -- Nick Malceski -- Luke Parker -- Mitch Morton

                  Jude Bolton not included in 2012 team.

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #24
                    Its amazing the turnover of a team. Out of that premiership team, only 4 remain on swans list, and 3 are still playing for other teams.

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                    • Dirtyburt
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 853

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ScottH
                      Would 2005 LRT play on 2012 LRT?
                      It's an interesting conundrum
                      In: LRT
                      Out: LRT

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                      • BillyRayCypress
                        On the Rookie List
                        • May 2012
                        • 1379

                        #26
                        Well LRT shone for the 2005 GF and then went walkabout for many years.

                        I don't think he was that different earlier this season but something has changed since. Whether its a mental thing or being played more as a defensive forward. He certainly has had many years in defence to learn how to best play as a forward.

                        Good job Barry. Makes an interesting picture. I still think 2012 is a better side and unfortunately for us in a significantly better comp.
                        Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                        • Swansongster
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1264

                          #27
                          Who would be the 05 sub?

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                          • Industrial Fan
                            Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3318

                            #28
                            Originally posted by BillyRayCypress
                            Well LRT shone for the 2005 GF and then went walkabout for many years.

                            I don't think he was that different earlier this season but something has changed since. Whether its a mental thing or being played more as a defensive forward. He certainly has had many years in defence to learn how to best play as a forward.

                            Good job Barry. Makes an interesting picture. I still think 2012 is a better side and unfortunately for us in a significantly better comp.
                            I think its just the continuity in his game. Has been persistently injured just after he settles in the team.

                            Was a very good player in 06 but had his stress factures get in the way.
                            He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                            • Dosser
                              Just wild about Harry
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1833

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Swansongster
                              Who would be the 05 sub?
                              Ablett

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                              • R-1
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 1042

                                #30
                                That 2005 forward line would stretch the 2012 defence mightily, I suspect.

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