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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    #76
    So lots of us want Morton to be given a full game as he just may be the missing link we need in the forward line but who to leave out if Jude returns?

    I think we are top heavy and LRT is the least effective tall at present so if he is slightly injured, give him the week off, start Morton and sub Jude or sub Jetta with Jude to come off late third quarter.

    But having said that, it will be as expected - Morton out, Jude in and we'll still be top heavy and not quick enough to stop their backline rebound.

    As a team we are close but just a few missing pieces.

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    • Scottee
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 1585

      #77
      Originally posted by Dirtyburt
      Schizophrenia?
      LOL LOL LOL!!!
      We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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      • Scottee
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2003
        • 1585

        #78
        Originally posted by Chilcott
        Scottee, would have to agree with Burt.

        White has been given heaps of chances, but everytime he lets the team down. He may play well in the magoos, but when it comes to senior football, he has no idea.

        Also, we don't need a third ruck. Two is enough.

        I don't mind Walsh, but he needs more time. His speed is average at best, so needs to work on his ability to read the play and positioning. He is not up to AFL (at the moment). Hopefully, with another season he will be able to make it in 2013.
        Its a hard one. Jude back in is a no-brainer but the out is really difficult. Morton is worth the gamble I think because he could be so valuable in the finals and we need to find out now whether he really can play the Swans way. It just strikes me though that if you go with LRT and opt for the 3 tall forward line Jesse wouldn't be much different (if LRT was in fact injured). Tom Hawkins was given as many if not more chances so it doesn't seem that far fetched to me that Jesse could finally keep his mind on the job (yeah, OK it's wishful thinking).

        I expect that Morton will be dropped(very impressed with his high speed leading and ability to run backwards as fast as his opponent can run forwards) and whilst this whole discussion is academic, it is the last chance before the finals to try something innovative (big shame we didn't use the Dogs game to try things out).
        We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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        • Go Swannies
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2003
          • 5697

          #79
          Originally posted by 707
          So lots of us want Morton to be given a full game as he just may be the missing link we need in the forward line but who to leave out if Jude returns?

          I think we are top heavy and LRT is the least effective tall at present so if he is slightly injured, give him the week off, start Morton and sub Jude or sub Jetta with Jude to come off late third quarter.

          But having said that, it will be as expected - Morton out, Jude in and we'll still be top heavy and not quick enough to stop their backline rebound.

          As a team we are close but just a few missing pieces.
          Funny how the team on AFL Insiders tonight (or maybe repeat from last night?) were saying how LRT may well be the most important link in our forward line (and Rocket agreed) as our forwards take few marks but rather bring the ball to ground. I guess we've seen that our "alternative" forward structure has been effective but I wonder if it'll stand up in finals. It seems to give us wins as long as our midfield win the battle. Not long before we find out.

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #80
            Comparing LRT and Jesse is like the old riddle about the difference between a war horse and a draught horse: the war horse darts into the fray, the draught horse ...
            Jude in, Morton out (though I'd like to see him stay, shame we can't have 23 men).
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • Dirtyburt
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Apr 2012
              • 853

              #81
              Originally posted by Go Swannies
              Funny how the team on AFL Insiders tonight (or maybe repeat from last night?) were saying how LRT may well be the most important link in our forward line (and Rocket agreed) as our forwards take few marks but rather bring the ball to ground. I guess we've seen that our "alternative" forward structure has been effective but I wonder if it'll stand up in finals. It seems to give us wins as long as our midfield win the battle. Not long before we find out.
              Spot on

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              • BillyRayCypress
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2012
                • 1379

                #82
                Originally posted by dimelb
                Comparing LRT and Jesse is like the old riddle about the difference between a war horse and a draught horse: the war horse darts into the fray, the draught horse ...
                Jude in, Morton out (though I'd like to see him stay, shame we can't have 23 men).
                I think like Toy Story, its a wooden horse.

                Isn't anyone else here worried about Bird getting gobbled up?
                Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                • Wardy
                  The old Boiler!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 6676

                  #83
                  It's a long shot but maybe rest Jetta for a week get himself right - cats know how he works but they don't really know Morton- I am forever hopeful.
                  I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                  Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                  AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #84
                    Originally posted by 707
                    So lots of us want Morton to be given a full game as he just may be the missing link we need in the forward line but who to leave out if Jude returns?

                    I think we are top heavy and LRT is the least effective tall at present so if he is slightly injured, give him the week off, start Morton and sub Jude or sub Jetta with Jude to come off late third quarter.

                    But having said that, it will be as expected - Morton out, Jude in and we'll still be top heavy and not quick enough to stop their backline rebound.

                    As a team we are close but just a few missing pieces.
                    I agree with all of this, including the part about Morton being the one most likely to be dropped. But I think it is a mistake. Having introduced him into the team, albeit only as a sub, I think we should commit to at least test him out for a full game. It isn't like we don't know if he can play at AFL level. He is a real talent. It is only his work ethic and attitude that has really been in question.

                    LRT has done a great job in a number or roles over many years. Coaches must love him, because you know the kind of commitment you are going to get week in and week out. But like the Hawks did on Saturday, when they put Hodge onto him, you can put a more nimble defender on him (and Hodge is not very nimble), and run off him at will to set up play from the back half. I think this would be harder to do on Morton, who is very dangerous and doesn't need much time and space to pull off some special.

                    One of the strengths of the Premiership period was having that unpredictable bit of magic that Micky O brought to the game. I suppose you could say that about Nick Davis as well. Jetta had it, but seems to have lost it lately. Morton is someone that just might be the answer. I think it's an important component of a successful team. Let's face it, our forward line is a bit boring.

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                    • grarmy
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 406

                      #85
                      Originally posted by wolftone57
                      Why do I always hear the theme to the 'Twilight Zone' when I come to this thread.
                      Cracked me up, that did. Very funny.
                      "Play like you can’t lose."

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                      • hot potato
                        Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1122

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Wardy
                        It's a long shot but maybe rest Jetta for a week get himself right - cats know how he works but they don't really know Morton- I am forever hopeful.
                        I LIKE THIS ... JETTA IS JUST NOT (AND INJURED) AN IN FORM PLAYER ... MORTON WOULD BE THE UNKNOWN WEAPON...
                        "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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                        • Dirtyburt
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 853

                          #87
                          Please don't shout

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                          • jono2707
                            Goes up to 11
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3326

                            #88
                            Originally posted by hot potato
                            I LIKE THIS ... JETTA IS JUST NOT (AND INJURED) AN IN FORM PLAYER ... MORTON WOULD BE THE UNKNOWN WEAPON...
                            Whilst Morton wouldn't be unknown to the Cats, he's still worth getting a full game into. Unless he was given the sub gigs just as an encouragement to keep up the work he's put in since joining us. If so, he'll be out this week, with Jude coming back in .

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                            • Ratna
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 166

                              #89
                              IMHO Jetta needs to stay. Not long ago he was in all Australian form. HE has been tagged out of games to a degree but the touches he does get are often very important. I do, however think he could be used as the sub in order to rest him up a bit before finals and it certainly would provide an injection of pace late in the game.
                              As for who to drop for Jude coming in? I am glad it is a question for the selection panel and not me, but sadly I think Morton would be the most likely to go even though I agree with just about everyone on the thread he deserves greater opportunity.

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                              • Matty10
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1331

                                #90
                                It seems like a really strange move to not play Morton with Reid out. Our forward line has not functioned well for a while. Today seems like a lost opportunity to try and see if a new target would make a positive difference. Even if he did not work out, at least we would have a greater understanding of what our options are going into a final series.

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