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  • Industrial Fan
    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
    • Aug 2006
    • 3318

    #31
    We werent first in 2012.
    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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    • Melbourne_Blood
      Senior Player
      • May 2010
      • 3312

      #32
      Hawthorn to win flag in 2013

      Cartman, your hawks had far more high paid stars last year than our swans. That's a joke of an excuse pal. You lost it, we won. Get over it.

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      • Big Al
        Veterans List
        • Feb 2005
        • 7007

        #33
        Re: Hawthorn to win flag in 2013

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        ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

        Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #34
          Originally posted by cartman48
          Its OK Guys - the Swans are still ranked first in how much money you get to spend on players every year......
          Yeah....tell that to Lance Franklin.
          Does God believe in Atheists?

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          • cartman48
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2006
            • 129

            #35
            Lance is worth every cent - 9.8% additional in your salary cap..... And yes the Swans were the better side in last years GF.
            Carn the Southern Power.....

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            • Industrial Fan
              Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
              • Aug 2006
              • 3318

              #36
              Hopefully we find some more spare cash inside our enormous cap to make a bid for Franklin as well.
              He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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              • DamY
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2011
                • 1479

                #37
                Hawthorn to win flag in 2013

                Originally posted by cartman48
                Its OK Guys - the Swans are still ranked first in how much money you get to spend on players every year......
                Yet we have so few "stars" compared to Hawthorn - WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO?!

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                • cartman48
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 129

                  #38
                  Originally posted by DamY
                  Yet we have so few "stars" compared to Hawthorn - WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO?!
                  No Stars - Selling your Team Short.... Kennedy, Goodes (Certianly at one stage the best in the AFL), Bolton, Hannebury, O'Keeffe, Jack are Stars and several young kids who will be stars, you also have more 200K players than any other side in the comp (Many delisted end of the year (Types like Seaby etc) I'm sure to free up a million a year for Tippett who must be now classed as a star given his pay cheque).

                  What is scary is you acquired Tippett and have not lost a player from your best 25, add in a maturing Tom Mitchell and a returning Gary Rohan and you are probably the most balanced side in the comp.

                  As much as you all seem to like to think you are hard done by underdogs, you have 10% more to spend and you have spent that cash very well - not blaming the Swans for taking advantage, blaming the AFL for continuing to let it happen after it has had its desired affect and made the Red and white ducks a power of the AFL.
                  Carn the Southern Power.....

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                  • Reggi
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2718

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Xie Shan
                    I think you're underrating Sewell and Burgoyne, but apart from that I agree that the Hawks are overrated as a result of being from Melbourne where they are one of the strongest Victorian teams, they had a great 2012, I suppose I am more interested to see how they respond to the pain of losing a close grand final, as West Coast were spurred on by it in 2006.
                    Sewell is good. His disposal and lack of pace let him down. Burgoyne averages around 17 possessions a game. He simply does not get enough footy to do damage - ranked 76th in the league for possessions.

                    I think our big challengers next year will be West Coast, Collingwood and Geelong. Adelaide and Hawthorn have just 2 genuinely elite midfielders each. We have 5 Collingwood 4. I don't think you can challenge without a strong elite midfield. I rate Sewell, he just isn't damaging enough for the possessions he gets
                    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      #40
                      Hawthorn to win flag in 2013

                      Cartman, Three of the stars you mentioned are veterans who have a chunk of their salary paid outside of the cap. Kennedy is on a decent contract with us but is getting well short of what he is now worth, and certainly well short of what hawthorns stars are paid. And Hanners is 21, and while he will command a big salary one day, he wouldn't be on one currently. If we had of bombed out of finals in straight sets as many predicted, would anybody have made a peep about our ability to recruit Tippett ? I highly doubt it. To say our salary cap concessions have contributed significantly to the state of our list is a bit of a stretch. Our recruiting staff, coaches, culture, and the players themselves have done that. 4 players aged 21 or under taken from picks 30 to 56 in the ND Played in our premiership side.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11339

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Xie Shan
                        I think you're underrating Sewell and Burgoyne, but apart from that I agree that the Hawks are overrated as a result of being from Melbourne where they are one of the strongest Victorian teams, they had a great 2012, I suppose I am more interested to see how they respond to the pain of losing a close grand final, as West Coast were spurred on by it in 2006.
                        They just upped the dosage.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #42
                          Chance Bateman yesterday
                          ?You?d probably hold off from completely dismissing Sydney again"

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                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5857

                            #43
                            Originally posted by R-1
                            Freo are serious contenders. Ross has arguably more to work with there than at St Kilda.
                            Yes and the club isn't a joke like St Kilda. He doesn't get management interfering or Board Members telling him what to do. He gets to pick his own squad not like at the Saints where the recruiters just took who they wanted and stuff the coach.

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                            • wolftone57
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5857

                              #44
                              Originally posted by cartman48
                              Lance is worth every cent - 9.8% additional in your salary cap..... And yes the Swans were the better side in last years GF.
                              You live here you know how much more expensive it is to live here or you should. Real Estate Rentals are $64/week more (almost 20% more), Mortgages are $66/wk more which is over 15% more, that means Rates are higher by the same amount seeing that they are charged at a % of house values. The 9.8% is very small in fact and yes Perth is very expensive at the moment for Housing and they also have a case for a subsidy. South Australia is the cheapest of the states to live in. Qld & WA are about 8% more on Mortages than Victoria & about 10% higher for rentals. Adelaide is lower than Sydney by 30% on both Mortgages and Rentals. All figures come from the Australian Bureau of statistics released on 11th December 2012.

                              4102.0 - Australian Social Trends, Dec 2012

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                              • DamY
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1479

                                #45
                                Hawthorn to win flag in 2013

                                Originally posted by wolftone57
                                You live here you know how much more expensive it is to live here or you should. Real Estate Rentals are $64/week more (almost 20% more), Mortgages are $66/wk more which is over 15% more, that means Rates are higher by the same amount seeing that they are charged at a % of house values. The 9.8% is very small in fact and yes Perth is very expensive at the moment for Housing and they also have a case for a subsidy. South Australia is the cheapest of the states to live in. Qld & WA are about 8% more on Mortages than Victoria & about 10% higher for rentals. Adelaide is lower than Sydney by 30% on both Mortgages and Rentals. All figures come from the Australian Bureau of statistics released on 11th December 2012.

                                4102.0 - Australian Social Trends, Dec 2012
                                Nice work!

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